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Where's the Ammo?

It is consumer demand that keeps supplies of ammo nationwide low—and prices high. To figure out why, you might ask your neighbor.

The NRA is regularly inundated with letters from members requesting an explanation of the nationwide ammo shortage. Some folks merely vent their frustration over the amount of ammo they are able to acquire for range sessions. Some complain about the jump in prices; they insist it can’t all be explained by supply and demand. Others are sure the government is buying up all the ammo so average Americans can’t get their hands on it. Everyone wants to know if we have any inside information.

Whatever you believe to be the cause for the shortage, the fact is ammo continues to be difficult to find. Store shelves are empty. If you’re lucky enough to find a few boxes, chances are either you or the person behind you in line will buy all that either of you can carry and stash it away like Private Pyle hides a jelly doughnut. So, is this the future of ammunition, or is there an end to the madness? I did my homework, and while my conclusions may not be the answers you’re looking for, they are at least based on fact.

Government Purchases
Let’s start at the rumor mill. The Internet is awash with reports of large acquisitions of ammunition by government agencies, and the pot-stirrers ran with it: They insist “the government took it all.”

But as reported on the NRA Institute for Legislative Action website (, much of the concern over these government purchases stems from a lack of understanding of federal law enforcement functions and the agencies tasked with performing them.

For instance, the Social Security Administration (SSA) employs 295 special agents tasked with combating fraud; this is a law enforcement function. These agents have the power to execute warrants and make arrests; they are required to carry firearms. The 174,000 rounds of pistol ammunition recently solicited by the SSA works out to roughly 590 rounds for each of the 295 agents for periodic training, mandatory quarterly qualifications and duty use.

At first blush, the 46,000 rounds of .40 caliber ammo requested by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) seems like a waste of money for a bunch of lab coats arguing about the rain. But the reality is that ammo is going to the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement, a small outfit of 63 personnel who enforce marine importation and fishing laws. They carry firearms. It works out to about 730 rounds per officer per year.

But that’s only a drop in the bucket compared to the solicitation by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for 450 million rounds of .40 caliber jacketed hollow-points over the next five years. At least one politician thought such an open-ended contract stunk enough to look a bit further. After receiving numerous questions from his constituents regarding the contract, pro-Second Amendment U.S. Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.) got some answers. He issued them in a press release, explaining that the DHS contract covers the DHS Police Force as well as Customs and Border Protection, Federal Emergency Management Administration, Immigration & Customs Enforcement, the U.S. Secret Service, Transportation Security Administration, Citizenship and Immigration Service and more—roughly 65,000 law enforcement personnel combined. Crunch the numbers: 1,384 rounds per officer, per year.

So, while it’s true the government has purchased a lot of ammo, is it enough to empty store shelves? That leads us to existing supply and production, data for which ammo manufacturers hold close to the vest based on concerns regarding market competition. American Rifleman Editor in Chief Mark Keefe spoke with representatives of major ammo makers during the NRA Annual Meetings in May and was able to delve a bit deeper, albeit “off the record.” What he tells me mirrors the official responses I have received: “All of them reported they have their plants working full out, and all of them are shipping more ammunition than ever.” The percentage of law enforcement and military sales is down largely across the board due to increased production of consumer ammunition. “They are not making less ammunition for the government,” explains Keefe. “They’re making more for consumers.” One manufacturer told Keefe that his company’s production is up 33 percent. And with the most sought after rounds being 9mm and .22 LR, it doesn’t make sense to dedicate machines and tooling time to produce small runs of cartridges like the 7x57 Mauser. There are more than a billion rounds of .22 LR produced in this country every year. “I’d be willing to bet that the federal government has not purchased over a billion rounds of .22 LR,” says Keefe.

Consumer Demand
So if production is up, where are our beloved plinking rounds? You might ask your neighbor.

According to Eric Wallace, owner and general manager of Georgia-based Adventure Outdoors, whose annual sales of ammunition top $2.5 million, people are buying more ammunition than ever before.

“The average customer used to buy two or three boxes,” he says. “Now they’re buying 10 to even 15.” And that’s not just hard-core shooters like you and me, he says—that’s first-timers buying cases of ammo. According to a recent study commissioned by the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the majority of first-time buyers (60.3 percent) use their guns once per month or even more. One in five use their guns once a week or more. In fact target shooting is the most popular activity for first-time buyers; 84.3 percent say they use their guns for this purpose. Any way you cut it that’s a lot of ammo going downrange.

Amid this, price-gouging has increased, at least among private sellers. Wallace offers a firsthand account of actions that quite possibly are being played out across the country. He overheard some guys “bragging” about riding to 10 or 12 Walmarts to buy all the .22 LR they could find then posting it for sale on social media sites and selling 50-round boxes for $10 apiece.

Entrepreneurs noticed the surge in gun and ammo sales, and so they opened many new ranges and gun shops across the country the last few years. The result: The increase in retail points of purchase has thinned out the ammo supply from distributors among a now greater number of outlets. “Hardware stores or pawn shops that maybe weren’t even in the gun and ammunition business three years ago all of the sudden want to be in the ammo business because they’re doubling their money on any bit they can get,” Wallace says.

In Manassas, Va., Bernie Conatser, owner of Virginia Arms Co., says at one point his distributors were sending him large cardboard boxes that contained only a single box of ammo. “That happened often enough to where it really stopped being funny,” he says.

The increased competition forces shops to look to smaller manufacturers and distributors for their ammo needs, albeit at a higher cost to be able to offer at least something to their customers.

The Economic Truth
Roiling commodities markets don’t help matters. Annually, every major ammunition maker forecasts demand then forecasts sales based on projected production set against projected supplies of necessary raw materials. But worldwide competition—from China mainly, where until recently new factories seemed to open every month—increases demand for materials needed by every industry.

As a hedge against future price increases for raw materials, ammo makers buy futures contracts in commodities markets. The contracts are essentially lots of raw materials purchased at fixed prices for a given period of time, which allows makers to stay within budget throughout a production year because they can count on fixed costs. But until recently prices in many commodities markets rose more than they fell.

Increased consumer demand leads to increased production, which depletes existing supplies of materials, which forces makers to return to commodities markets to buy more supplies sooner than expected. In recent years, some makers have been forced to raise prices mid-year.

The economic lesson: When demand exceeds supply, supply dwindles and prices rise. Prices won’t fall until supply exceeds demand.

An End in Sight?
None of this goes over well with American consumers used to finding and buying what they want. Still, Bernie Conatser has hope for the future.

He recalled a similar run in 2008: Then he noticed the first things to disappear from his shelves were firearms; magazines went next, and finally ammo. “They typically come back in the same order,” he says: “Guns first, then magazines, then ammo.” Conatser now has AR rifles and magazines to sell. And more ammo, he says, is starting to trickle into his shop in Manassas, Va.

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106 Responses to Where's the Ammo?

gene wrote:
December 16, 2014

In Montana we have Cabelas and Sportsmans Wharehouse , and other suppliers and nothing. No 22 ammo ever, we hear all the same stuff,' Its hoarding or the war' Really? What about powder and bullets? none to be found. Everyone is getting upset. My friend was on back order for so long when the store called to tell him his order came in he had forgotten about it ( 18 months later). Really? they took his money instantly, (18 months ) mind you. What a sham, what a shame how can a business stay in business if they cant sell what people want.

rspock wrote:
July 23, 2014

It's summer of 2014 now and reloading components are more scarce than ever. Midway, Cabalas, etc have little to no Hodgdon powder, 30 cal completion quality bullets (or any other for that matter). Can't shake the feeling that something besides normal supply and demand is going on.

Russell Keeling wrote:
May 18, 2014

It's hard to believe this articles. I handload and all components are not available and have not been for a long time. If this article held truth, at some point I would be able to find some brass.

Josh wrote:
February 04, 2014

It's unbelievable how some stores have more ammo and others don't. But the price is crazy the only real thing you can do and get yourself into is reloading. I figured I would start reloading this coming March.

Phil wrote:
January 29, 2014

I ordered 1000 rds from BVAC just before Sandy Hook and was told it would be 90 days, still haven't got them. The government is going to price ammo out of the working mans pockets.

Richard Crow wrote:
January 28, 2014

BassPro opened a new store within driving distance. Of course the store was mobbed opening day. I went the second day it was open and they still had lots of ammo with people constantly restocking the shelves. How do they get all they need when other places can't?

Rodney Lawson wrote:
January 25, 2014

I don't believe that for a minute. I asked the lady in the sporting goods dept. at my local Wal-mart for some 22lr last week. She said they had not been able to get any for the last four weeks.

Jeff wrote:
January 24, 2014

No Jeremy you are wrong. At my local Walmart there is plenty of ammo with the exception of .22 and to get that you must be there when they bring it out because the guy that already has a half million rounds doesn't care if any one ever gets any and us poor people that have to go to work can't be there when they bring the ammo out.

Cmeplay13 wrote:
January 22, 2014

I am a avid hunter. I hunt whatever is in season at the time yet I have not purchased over 3 to 5 box's of ammo since the hard times came about. If everyone would just buy what would get them by and not try to buy everything they come across. The supply might begin to catch up. Honestly how many trips to the deer woods would two boxs of 243 win or 30-06 last? Ok so you bought a new gun, get it sighted in and shoot it at longer range for the knowledge. That should still give you 1 box for hunting. I have never shot 20 rounds on any hunting trip I have ever been on. (Whitetail Deer) Really if we would all be alittle more frugal. It would help.

jeremy wrote:
January 09, 2014

Your wrong john, we are all buying massive amounts of ammo at a record/sustained pace. Liberals, supriIngly are arming them self's as well. I see it at my work all day, Obama nuts talking about the gun shows and the 1000 there gonna spend on ammo or a gun is regular contestation these days. Even Bill Maher admitted to owning guns. While I have no doubt we 'right minded NRA folks' out pace this liberal movement 15 to 1, everyone must bare in mind that gun manufacturers are not able to produce enough for both sides ATM. My recomendation is keep buying as much as one can afford and be early to rise and waiting at the store when the doors open.

Jdelcjr wrote:
January 06, 2014

Just when it looked like things were getting a little better for .22LR, I looked after xmas and found NONE anywhere. Maybe due to Xmas purchases, maybe the new law in NY forbidding internet sales caused people to buy it up. But as of Jan 6 2014 I cannot find one box of .22 LR, Short or Mag from ANY retailer.

Mike58 wrote:
December 25, 2013

I am an NRA life member.I am asking the NRA to provide its members and all Americans with The Real Truth about the ammo shortage ? Please!!!

MikeK wrote:
December 08, 2013

I am a shop owner. I can get most ammo in, at least in limited quantities. Yet I get only a few boxes of .22 LR in at a time. I used to get hundreds of boxes in a month. Now I am lucky if I get more than 10-12 a month in stock. It is not being bought by hoarders for the most part, It is just not coming through the distribution channels in quantity and it costs us a lot more too. A retired friend of mine at Walmart says that they only get a few boxes of .22 LR a week too. So what is the real deal? Stop lying to everyone. Something is going on..If it wasn't production shortages then what is it? Why has foreign .22 lr dried up in the distribution channels as well?

Frank wrote:
December 02, 2013

Sorry, this doesn't begin to explain why ammunition is not showing up at the retailers in the first place. Every shop I talk to tells me the same thing.... They can't seem to get any .22lr. They don't say they 'can't get enough.' They say that it is barely trickling in. My neighbor can't buy it either if it isn't on the shelves. So where is it all going if it isn't getting to the retailers?

dave wrote:
November 24, 2013

you can't have all time record gun sales without expecting all time record ammo purchases... we caught manufactures flat footed. throw in that the govt bought up the surplus inventory I think more to drive the price up then to keep it from us. and you have a classic economic situation of supply and demand. Now our own buying frenzy has outpaced current production. Government can't buy it all or our taxes would go thru the roof(more than they are already). At some point we the people will stop buying large amounts and the manufacturers will still be producing at top speed then the prices will come down because supply will be huge compared to demand... It has to play itself out now

Lou F. wrote:
November 20, 2013

I read the article by Mr. Draper. All of which seems plausible. However, it does not explain the shortage in powder, primers and bullets. .22lr, 40 cal. and 9mm cannot be taking up all the resources. I would like to see an explanation. Keep'em in the X ring

R.B. Snyder wrote:
November 19, 2013

I refuse to let greedy shop owners gouge me for a box of .22 amo. I was at a gun show and was told by a dealer that he can still buy ammunition for a little over what he was paying two years ago. When he put it out for what he said was a fair market price he had several guys come into his shop and buy it all. A week later he was set up at a gun show and saw two of those men who bought it from him selling it for three times what he sold it to them for. As a result he will only sell to those he knows. I will do with out.

JP wrote:
November 12, 2013

I guess I'm lucky. I bought what for me will (hopefully) be a lifetime supply of home/personal - defense ammo. 20 rounds of Federal personal defense ammo for $35 give or take. Oh well....

Nick wrote:
November 10, 2013

Over time I noticed the Harris Teeter near my house was always busy. Any time you went in there you would see lines. So they built another Harris Teeter within 3 miles. Then that one got real busy as well. So they built yet another Harris Teeter within 6 miles. If Ammo manufacturers are running 24/7 for as long as they claim they have been, and ammo shortages have been happening for years, then why not build another production facility? Whatever is preventing that, may indeed be the real problem.

Kenneth K. Snider wrote:
November 03, 2013

Shortages happen. Get over it. Do your own reloading is a smart way to go. So is voting Libertarian. Just a thought. Hunt safe my brothers and sisters.

mike wrote:
October 27, 2013

There was no ammo shortage if you are a conservative and take care of your own future. I always have at least a five year supply. If your a demo(c)rat you will blame everyone but yourself. Shortages happen- Duh

Jonathan P. McKenney Sr. wrote:
October 21, 2013

Oboma is democrat. So are the gun grabbers. vote them out things will get better.

Sean wrote:
October 13, 2013

What about just plain supply and demand.........but wait if the corporations are controlling the supply......then we live in a fascist country.......... then why do people support the republicans.....

Hawrylak wrote:
October 01, 2013

I was Cabelas last week....all the ammo you could ask for. And, in any caliber you wanted. Go figure! But, it was still expensive; as compared to the time prior to the shortages.

Andrew V. Jason wrote:
October 01, 2013

I dont understand what the argument is even about at this point. Ammo shortages? How bout illegal gun registration? Its almost common knowledge the government is watching and listening to just about everybody, be it through their cellphones, televisions, or old fashioned snitches with wires. Its been said if people don't register their assault weapons in NY and these weapons can't be confiscated legally, they want to send informants to execute staged robberies to procure the now illegal weapons they know about anyway, bacause of the cellphone and television voyeur programs they only recently admitted to per Edward Snowden! Did someone say they weren't going to register their assault rifle next to their cellphone? SHHHH! They will hear you!

Ryan wrote:
September 30, 2013

I went to Gander Mtn. this weekend to buy some ammo they had in their sale ad. Of course it was sold out minutes after the store opened that morning, leaving most of us empty handed. When asking the store manager what the deal was, he said they only received 24 boxes of each brand of ammo listed in the sale ad. When asked 'why even advertise the sale then' he replied that they are told to run the ads by the company, without knowing how much is coming in. Then he added that its not Gander Mtn, or their suppliers, but said that it was the government telling them how much ammo they could receive at a time... Not entirely sure I buy it, but considering I live in the outermost suburbs of Chicago, I am not one to call BS on that statement. I am certain that many factors are at play here to create this shortage. But I must agree with most of the other commenters, why are the NON-NATO calibers in short supply as well? And who are these people buying up pallets full of ammo at a time? And why does the ammo companies pull their people off of the hunting calibers in order to produce more NATO calibers, leaving us sportsman with nothing!? There are many cogs in this machine that is screwing those of us that are not in the loop.

John Shaffer wrote:
September 23, 2013

I'm not buying the article, entirely, although there is much merit in what was written. I mean really - over 1300 rds per year per fed. I go to the range regularly (although not as much as in the past) and I don't shoot much more than 1300 rds of centerfire/year. Reloading components were not even addressed. Because bullet sizes that are not used by the government - .270, 7mm, .358 (to mention only rifle) - are not readily available for reloading, one could easily conclude that bullet manufacturers have little regard for shooting sportsman as compared to supplying the .223, .308, 9mm, .40, .45 bullets to ammo manufactures for their juicy gov. contracts. I do agree that the biggest culprits are not the government. The price gouging is as abhorrent as the scumbags who do it and who continue to hoard exorbitant amounts of ammo. The .22LR hoarders are especially despicable for the harm they are doing young shooters who are the future of the shooting community.

Robert Hejl wrote:
September 20, 2013

I drove 50 miles to Cabelas and when I got there, they were restocking the ammo shelves, not allowing anyone in the isle until they were done. I was the first one in and purchased the entire stock of .22 lr ammo... that was ONE box! It was only $25. I went to the gun show in San Antonio and saw that guys were selling that same box for $ 75 bucks! Be careful when you shop.

Bruce wrote:
September 19, 2013

I shoot black powder, cast my own bullets for the cost of the bullet moulds ( you can find lead for free if you try) and can buy all the caps, flints and black powder I want. This keeps me tuned up.

Greg Hardy wrote:
September 16, 2013

I am a very casual .22LR shooter although I have many rounds that I have purchased...but I have not been able to buy anything for over six months and none of my friends either. No one in my next of the woods even shoots their guns anymore. How can we be the problem when we can't even buy ammo? More cool Aide drinkers!

Kelpie wrote:
September 15, 2013

I think that the biggest reason I cannot get ANY .22 lr in Indy is because of the prick hoarders and scaplers buying it up once it hits the shelves. One little prick bragged to me the other day at Gouger Mountain that he bought 10,000 rounds of .22 lr off the shelf once the store opened. Said he can sell it for 50 bucks a brick with no problem. I wanted to punch the guy.

Paul wrote:
September 15, 2013

Sorry, not buying this article.'They also said that artificial sweetners were safe, WMD's were in Iraq and Anna Nicole married for love.'

Dalicstr wrote:
September 15, 2013

The rich and powerfull no more then us little guys. That's who is causing the shortage. If u can take my guns they will render it useless by taking ur ammo

Paul wrote:
September 15, 2013

The most innacurate article I have ever read in the Hunter Magazine. I have been in gun stores from Florida to Alaska and all of them have limits on ammo purchases. Stating that it's because of my neighbor is ridiculous. Why would the gov't purchase hollow point ammo, which is against international law for war? Annual qualification? I don't think so. There are 120,000 law enforcement officers within the federal gov't. 1.6 billion rounds comes to over 13,000 rounds per officer. That's a lot of 'qualification' . I see that the author of this article drank the DHS 'kool aid' explanation. This is nothing more than an attempt of an end run around the 2d amendment....Wake up!

jack ashe wrote:
September 14, 2013

Well another article has caused more sales.

Nick wrote:
September 14, 2013

Well we have been fighting global terror in several different theaters in the Middle East for quite some time. That shoot ALOT of 5.56/.223 ammo everyday. That puts a pinch on raw matertial as well. When the Newtown shooting happened is when I could not go to the store and buy a box o CCI's .22LR anymore. I don't think the GVT is buying .22LR, I just think the resources are used on other calibers like the aforementioned Military issued rifles. I do think there is some insider BS going with the .22LR that is artificially depleting supplies. Maybe their are people who have bought millions of rounds and maybe the Sporting Goods stores are restricting sales in order to push a price increase, you know never let a tragedy go to waste, but what I do appreciate is someone trying at least to explain what's going on, thank you NRA!

jerry m wrote:
September 11, 2013

Being a shooter having a stock of ammo has always been the case as in cases of ammo. With the public panic today a lot of non shooters have taken up the sport. Good for them, welcome to the club. Now all we need is good ole American manufacturers pumping out ammo for the new generation of 2nd Amendment supporters. Not the Chinese. It's a game of catch up but we can do it. Gun clubs can recycle the spent ammo to supply the raw materials. Ammo producers can expand their production lines and even open more factories. The only problem is government taxes and restrictions and scalpers, both in it for the money not the sport. Vote out the politicians like they did in Colorado and boycott the scalpers. I see a new America with a gun culture growing new jobs and instilling good morals as most gun owners know. Unlike our government which does the opposite. At the club we still pledge allegiance to the stars and stripes and follow strict safety rules as well as respectful conduct, unlike our schools. The same anti-gunner politicians have taxed our sport, demoralized our schools and are busy destroying our Constitution. This is a good movement, let's manage it correctly and get things back on track. The more gun owners that vote the fewer bad politicians. Now sell that iPhone and get a real nice pistol. When confronted better to shoot than call 911. Americans have become panic shoppers, they take the joy out of Christmas. Let's all stop the panic and enjoy the sport. Don't buy from the scalpers and support honest dealers. Build your inventory slowly and respect others in the sport. Many newcomers are reverse democrats that live on panic. You have a gun now, you're safe. No need to panic.

Al wrote:
September 11, 2013

Well, as a former 'BP' (over 20 yrs... and now retired) I must 'clarify' the other BP's 'waste' for using hollowpoints for quals AND duty; the reason is so that an agent doesn't get any of his 'practice' FMJ's mixed up with his duty ammo. It would definitely happen. You cannot rely on all agents to diligently inspect their 'duty' carry ammo.

Gary M wrote:
September 11, 2013

I am sure there is a little bit of truth to all of the responses regarding ammunition sales, to whom and why there are shortages. To all of those 'theories' I add the following: The 2nd amendent gives us the right to bear arms. It says nothing about the ability to keep those arms loaded. To date, the Fed gov't under mostly Democrat leadership has tried on many occasions to take our guns only to run into a rather strong opposition. Yes, states like mine, NY, that have severely (unconstitutionally,in my opinion) limited the types of firearms a citizen can legally own have made some inroads into denying legal gun ownership. I would suggest that those in power, especially those anti-gun politicos have 'stumbled' on another way to limit civilian guns. I can not prove a thing, but I feel the gov't has placed many 'futures' orders on ammo, enough so that given the factories are running full tilt, or so they say, do not want to be in a position where they could not fill the gov't orders. Now as for civilian hoarding of ammo, given the events in this country since B.O. got first elected and then re-elected, there is a sense in this country that our gov't has 1. become too big, 2. has begun to exert even more control of our freedoms and 3. sees a free thinking, freedom needing populace as a threat to their continued control, that people fear a time may come, and not in the distant future where another revolution of sorts is on the horizon. Not unlike our forefathers who chose to resist the increasingly oppressive governance by Great Britain, many people see a time coming where a revolt against the tyranny of a too strong central gov't could take place. When you look at the tone of many bloggers on this subject, many are very angry at what they see. They don't see the checks and balances in our gov't working. What they do see is a gov't in DC, becoming more and more isolated from the populace, more and more voting their own beliefs and self-interests rather than those of their constituents. When you look at how Washington has handled, lets say, Obamacare for themselves, clearly they see themselves as elitists and above the rest of us and totally deserving of a healthcare plan that is the Cadillac for them whilst the rest of us are deemed barely worthy of a 'Yugo' type plan. They have placed their own needs above those of the country's. A revolution in this country is a real possibility and I think the average patriot out there sees it coming and wants to be prepared. So they are not 'hoarding' ammo, they are getting ready.

Patrick Graham wrote:
September 11, 2013

America's ammo buying habit isn't going to change anytime soon. Weak and indecisive Presidential leadership, Syria, the Middle East and North Africa falling apart and a deficit that is almost $17 trillion and climbing fast has everyone fearing for our future. It's time to let the Chinese back in the ammo manufacturing market.

Bob wrote:
September 11, 2013

I was just at a gun show in Austin where about every table was selling 22LR. There were literally pallets of them. Each brick was going for $65 - $74 per box. I'd say there is a little bit of price gouging going on

Matt wrote:
September 11, 2013

'This is all bull for one reason and one reason only, and here it is. No government entity or official using government weapons on government time is ever and I mean ever allowed to use hollow point ammunition plain and simple.' It's comments like this that are the height of ignorance. I'm a federal LEO and we are REQUIRED to duty carry hollow point ammo all day everyday on the job. In fact, I know of NO federal agency that doesn't. We are required to qualify a minimum of 2 times per year, but typically go to the range on average 4 times per year. Our unit is mostly using so called 'green ammo' for drills, but we do shoot and replace the hollow point duty ammo annually. For those who think the 60,000 LEO number for DHS is inflated consider this: I work for a comparatively small federal agency and we employee roughly 2,700 officers and agents. DHS is comprised of agency's like CBP, Immigration, Treasury (Secret Service), Coast Guard, and FEMA. DHS also runs the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) where at any given time there are several thousand new hires in training. FLETC consumes tens of thousands of rounds everyday for training. I know I shot at least 5,000 rounds during my 13 week stay years ago. FLETC is an ammo consuming machine. I was initially alarmed at reports of DHS buying 1.6 billion rounds of ammo in recent years, but when one considers according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, in 2008 there were roughly 120,000 federal LEO's, and due to contracting and procurement changes, DHS is buying for a 5 year period which breaks down to 2,666 rounds of ammo per year for each federal LEO over 5 years. Broken down that way, it is not as alarming. I lean toward the argument that the shortage is mostly driven by the millions of new gun owners in the last five years who are buying any ammo they can get their hands on. My dad and brother are among them and they don't just buy a box at Walmart. A lot of people are buying in bulk on line and hoarding it just in case. I'll finish by saying that the LEO's I work with are frustrated by the ammo situation caused by posturing politicians. We are keeping our heads down and trying to do our job as best as we can. I take my constitutional oath seriously and I know who I really work for.

Luke wrote:
September 11, 2013

Yeah, NOW you can't get it. Only fools weren't buying when it was available. Sorry but of you didn't see this shortage coming at election time you deserve the scraps you are getting. Remeber when 550 round bricks of .22 were available for 14 bucks about 3 years ago? I do. That's why I bought hundreds of them. Along with 9mm rifle rounds shotgun shells and anything else I needed. Don't want roger caught out in the rain? Watch the weather an plan accordingly.

Stephan wrote:
September 11, 2013

Yes I'm sorry but the consumers are indeed the problem. I WAS the problem until recently. If you weren't able to stockpile ammo, even during the height of the problem, which I consider to be 2 or 3 months was because you are lazy. Ammo was there, if you were smart and beat the other guy to it. I'm satisfied where I am now, so have at it! Once you finally get a little stockpile (which may require you to slow down your shooting, duh) and stop scooping up everything you see, the shortage will ease up. First though, everybody needs to calm the heck down and stop panic buying, and for goodness sakes don't overpay! Every time you do, you feed the beast. Come on guys, its not that hard, and they aren't going to stop making it anytime soon, regardless of the conspiracy theories. If you'll just calm down, soon enough you will be able to stock up and at normal prices, maybe a little more than it used to be. Take a lesson from this and when it is available, stock up for hard times then. Don't get caught with your pants down again.

Bob wrote:
September 10, 2013

If this is all for target practice, why does it need to be hollow point? It is not a practice round and is more expensive. There is more here than meets the eye. Besides I have heard as much as 1.6B rounds over 5 years

Brian Fortin wrote:
September 10, 2013

We've got virtually open trade borders, but there's plenty of ammo in Canada and no shortage of people who will pay a premium here. A suspicious person would think the government is blocking nature from filling that vacuum.

Charles wrote:
September 10, 2013

There is a UN mandate to eliminate all firearms,not a conspiracy theory,fact....In order to be a member of the UN you have to be a Corporation,a nation state,no sovereignty.No conspiracy,fact........

Celtic Paladin wrote:
September 10, 2013

To a liberal sycophant 1000 to 1500 rounds even in a whole year sounds like something only a terrorist or gangster would have. But what I learned from years of target shooting is that for handgun it take about a 100 rounds just to get warmed up good, and then you can start the serious target shooting. I've been known to take as many as 6 or 8 handguns to the range at once in as many as 6 different calibers so let do the math be conservative and say only 50 rounds per gun of serious target shooting and add 100 rounds for warm up now that between 400 & 500 rounds and that's just one range trip do that once a month and that's between 4,800 & 6000 rounds of ammo and that's just pistol not counting shotgun or rifle ammo. That also doesn't include any defense ammo for carry or around the house to which I like to have a small stock pile a between 500 & 1,000 rounds. Now I'm a C&R collector so I have a few more than most people out there but I seem to recall reading somewhere that most gun owners have an average or 3 guns so that's between 1,500 & 3,000 round for just the average Joe out there, not counting hard core shooter or C&R collectors that stockpile odd-ball hard to get ammo like 6.5 Jap or .455 Webley. You start calculating these figures among over all the gun owners in the USA again not sure about this number but I seem to recall reading somewhere that is was over 100 million gun owners in America. now lets do some more math and WOW! Holy Crap that's a lot of ammo!

Tom wrote:
September 10, 2013

1000 to 1500 rounds a year may seem like alot of ammo for one person to use. When I was at my peak of competition and practice I shot 5000 rounds a year of 45ACP

Tim wrote:
September 10, 2013

Bull load, I work at walmart and since last October almost no ammo is coming in to the stores. So how can the consumers buy what is not on the shelves? When I say almost none , one example is 2 boxes of .17 her in eleven months . Um ,yeah, consumer buying it all.

RR wrote:
September 10, 2013

the NRA narrative about the ammo shortage and increase in price seems a little weak, short of facts and figures...another superficial talk over, without good hard info from the manufactures of ammo, suppliers and distributors/importers with little detail about what the government is doing with the ammo and firearms they are buying. I am skeptical, and look for a better explanation. I don't think there is much we can do about ammo.

Fatboy wrote:
September 10, 2013

Let me tell you friends.. Never in my lifetime have I witnessed such BS, in every sector of my life. This administration is capable of anything. I have never seen anything like in my 65 years as an American citizen. Yes... You heard me right.. It's this administration. I don't care what aspect of life you want to refer to, things just don't 'smell right' since Bo became president!

Paul wrote:
September 10, 2013

A lot of us work and can not wait around academy or gander on Thursday mornings. No excuse makes it ok for my store to be out. If you don't have what I need, I will shop elsewhere and you lose my business, maybe forever!

doug staab wrote:
September 10, 2013

I am told by a shooting friend in Vancouver B.C. that there has never been a shortage of .22LR there.

bill wrote:
September 10, 2013

In reading comments and thinking through as many aspects of the ammo poker game underway it soon became apparent that my response could run into (at least) a pamphlet? I like Mike Anderson's and Sal's comments as they give data. Have you looked at ATK Corp? They are a corp holding outfit who essentially owns Federal Cartridge. They bought up a chunk of Speer mfg - particularly the 5.56 and 7.65 bullet lines. Guess what calibers other than .40 S&W, for example, are predominate in the market - govt or private? I'm an NRA life member of nearly 40 years and have known a string of NRA professionals from exec vice-presidents through regional reps. It's quite interesting to hear commentary from various of these men and women with whom one has confidence! I don't particularly buy the consistent responses of NRA regarding the ammo picture. They are doing just a bit too good of a job in couching and rationalizing. I, too, have been after all the major bullet mfgrs. Deduction and rational thinking find it difficult to entirely accept the pat and nearly identical answers given by all. It used to be that one could buy all the 63 gr 5.56 FMJ BT bullets desired from Speer. Since their sale to ATK, these are no longer available. Neither are any above 55 grs available from ANY domestic mfgr. The same goes for 7.56 FMJ bullets. Our military, Barry's Homeland 'Security' constabulary and other fed agencies claiming 'enforcement' authority' have seized not only the supply but also control of who manufactures same and to whom it can (only) be sold. Our bullet makers will NOT offer an honest answer to this question. My guess is they are afraid. Must stop or I WILL go on forever. Perhaps there is a ray of light in the matter that we civvies are buying so much ammo. We seem to be the vanguard of those who recognize the culpability of our government in our current national situation. - let alone the domestic, local crime problem that is growing every day. Barry and our government know damned well what's going down and also know that their actions (and inactions) play a great role in its creation. But, then, we also know - don't we?

Tituswoman wrote:
September 10, 2013

1. There are now a ton of new gun owners 2. They have no idea what ammo prices use to be. 3. They are willing to pay to practice with their new weapons.

Knows what an IDIQ Contract is wrote:
September 10, 2013

I might add that the DHS contract for 450M rounds is a ceiling. They are not obligated or buy or pay for that many total rounds.

Muley Gil wrote:
September 10, 2013

Sal, Re your comment about the US Army and 7.62x39 ammo. Our army provides ammo to the Afghan police and probably to the army as well. When I was a police advisor in Afghanistan in 2004-2007, my training center was shipped ammo for training the Afghan police. At times, we received ammo that was newer than what we advisors were issued!

bill evans wrote:
September 10, 2013

if the ammo supply is not going to the government, then why did the manufacturers make the ammo available in smaller boxes? and still raise the prices?? is it need or greed? shame on the manufacturers if they are taking advantage of law abiding gun owners at a time like this.

Ronald Lankford Sr wrote:
September 10, 2013

Here in SW Va a box of 550 22lr are running $130 a box. I will not trade with these rippers and times will get better. Some of these are buying from WalMart for $25 a brick and reselling at $130.00. a lot of the problems are from dealers. SAD when you so called friend want to take you for a ride................

Rich Odefey wrote:
September 10, 2013

I was able to buy a small quantity of .22 LR a short time ago, on line from a national distributor. Forget propellant,. I have seen some SR and SP premium primers available on line. There are a few jacketed bullets, in calibers we shoot, occasionally available . My wife and I are 73. I sure hope we get back to normal before we go on the P.U.P. list.

Left Cost Chuck wrote:
September 10, 2013

While I can't prove it, I suspect that the 65,000 employees are not all leo's but include typists and office types. If the 65,000 number is only leo's, then the inference that they are expending 116 rounds each per month might be a correct figure, however if the 65,000 figure includes everybody on the payroll, then we know that the agency is not expending that much ammo on an individual basis. The problem is that there is no way of verifying the agency's figures and we all know that government agencies don't lie, don't we? It's too bad it has come to that. I can remember a time long ago when we actually believed the government. Perhaps it was misplaced trust. I don't know. Perhaps it was all the lies that were told during the Vietnam War that causes the widespread mistrust of anything anyone in the government says. Perhaps more recently it was the b.s. about Iraq and what Barry is trying to sell to us now about Syria.

Orlando wrote:
September 10, 2013

All points are well taken, but why did this happen all of a sudden? Why haven't all these agencies simply replaced the ammo as they used it? Even if they wanted to only increase their stock, why did everyone do it at the same time? I think we're being fed a lot of misinformation.

Booth wrote:
September 10, 2013

I'm in Memphis, TN, and regularly make the rounds of the gun shops in my area as well as the big box stores like Sportsman's Warehouse and Bass Pro. To a man, the owners of the gun shops as well as the counter-people at all of the above are telling me the same story: The trucks come in the morning, the first retired guy to see them unloading gets on his cell phone and very shortly a hoard of hoarders shows up to buy everything in the popular calibers. Bass Pro and the big independent gun shop have imposed per-customer limits, but the Bubbas and retired jarheads just carpool with enough buddies to scoop it all up. I've seen ammo on the shelves, but not much - but then I have a day job and can't get there at 0900 to intercept the truck. Just yesterday I was by Bass Pro and observed quantities of .223, .40 and .45 - but no 9mm or .22 LR. Almost every other caliber, including .308 and 30-06, is sitting on the shelves. This being the South, 00 Buck and 12-ga slugs are picked over, too, but there is ammo to be bought, especially if you get there early. On another note, people should realize that the 1.6 billion rounds was not a 'done deal' but rather the asked-for quantities for DHS over the next 5 years. As anybody who's ever worked in government or corporate environments knows, you ask for everything you can think of, and hope you get what you need.

Vinnie wrote:
September 10, 2013

I don't buy this story. Why would something as available as .22 become some rare and hard to get? I can't even find primers and powder to reload with. Someone somewhere has a strangle hold on the supply, be it the government, or a cartel of manufacturers. Rifle primers and powder are both almost totally not available anywhere in the Midwest.

Rkutzner wrote:
September 09, 2013

Mr. OConner here is one of those price gaugers. Check out the price of his 22LR. $30 for 50. His cheapest is 50 cents a round......

Robb wrote:
September 09, 2013

The ammo purchases for DHS are for a five-year period if anyone bothered to read the story plus all the 7.62x39 and 9x18 Makarov ammo is destined for some of our 'allies' in the Middle East. When I qualify for my agency you're looking at around 200 rounds of 9mm, 5.56 & 12 ga. per session. Multiply that times say..300 officers shooting each time then add in SERT (who train a LOT more than we do) with their MP5's, 700 Rems plus their Glocks... And that's just us in one location--multiply that times 15. And we're just one state agency..there are 5 other agencies in our state that use approx. the same if not more ammo yearly. It all adds up and we probably don't use nearly the amount some other states do. Oh, yeah and our duty(carry) ammo is regularly rotated becoming training ammo and replaced by fresh every 3 months. Just speaking about ammo use for my own department...

James Thornton wrote:
September 09, 2013

I'm starting to see more pistol ammunition at the retailers. I know there have been a number of guys in my area buying up all they can get (noted several times by others in earlier comments) and then hoarding it or selling it black market for inflated pricing. There is also the local crazies that are arming for whatever version of WWIII that is currently popular with the survivalist crowd these days. Soon they will all be sitting on ammo they can't sell for what they paid for it. It'll just break my heart. NOT.

Miguel wrote:
September 09, 2013

Here's a crazy thought, but how about the DHS buying up all the ammo so that shortages will drive the price up and then they slowly release their ammo to the public at the inflated prices so that they profiteer on us.

Paul wrote:
September 09, 2013

I was in Law Enforcement for six years for a county Sheriff. We had to wait almost 9 months to get ammo to practice and qualify with. When we finished qualify ammo was ordered for the next year. Several times we had to provide ammo bought from local dealers including Walmart. This started late 2007 and was still happening 2 years ago when I left.

Josh wrote:
September 09, 2013

Another thing to consider is that the way the consumer market has changed. With technology comes new ways of doing things. Stop complaining about it and get on the Internet. is one of a few sites that searches various sites to find ammo currently in stock. You just need to be resourceful. I hardly by anything at stores these days. I know some people are wary of privacy online, but big box stores keep tabs on buying preferences of consumers based on debit/credit card numbers anyway.

George wrote:
September 09, 2013

It is a sad commentary on our Nation when it's citizens are so concerned for their future that they feel it is necessary to stock up on ammo for a potential national crisis. Thanks Obama, for your outstanding leadership :(

Barack Obama good for ammo manufacturere wrote:
September 06, 2013

No one helped the industry more than Obama. Except we have to pay higher price!

DMack wrote:
September 06, 2013

As a former USBP Agent, I can tell you that DHS practices with the same ammo they carry. On range day, we shot Winchester Ranger .40cal (hollow points) at paper, then loaded the same ammo up in our mags and went back on duty. Was it a waste of money, yep. But whoever said the Feds were good at saving a penny.

Mike Anderson wrote:
September 05, 2013

In response to Mr. John Fife: I believe that the real answer lies in 2008 and Remington / Cerberus Capital management. Cerberus packaged up Remington and DPMs for sale with the company sale price based on the crazy firearms sales of 2008 following O's initial election. The market tanked and Cerberus was left holding the bag after massive capital investments that never paid off. In this latest environment the firearms industry is scared to death of capital investment, lest they turn into Cerberus when this market tanks. They are happy to run their factories 24X7 but they are not willing to invest in the massive equipment used to stamp out ammo. They know - as many have stated - that at some point all the folks will have a glut of supply they can't re-sell and the market will again tank. I have seen this with AR's, Mags, and now even .223 (our WA stores - especially Cabelas are stacked to the gills with Black Rifles, .223 and PMags). At some point enough .22LR, 9mm, and .40 will show up so the buy and dump crowd will finally have to deal with maxed out credit cards and dump their supply thus further reducing prices. Please note that due to backorders it was going to take 18 months to get all the supply out. There is always an outside chance that after the 18 month cycle this will become steady state. At that time I would expect the ammo Mfgs to increase capital machines and further ramp up production. Patterns to date do not support this outcome.

V Rivera wrote:
September 05, 2013

Also I don't believe that the Law-enforcement officers listed in the artical will use anywhere near the stated amounts in a year, especial hollowpoints. Ball was used by my department for all training and only when we did qualifcations and for duty did the hollow-points come out.

V Rivera wrote:
September 05, 2013

I was offered a bulk(550 rds.) box of .22 LR at a small gun store/gas station ticketed for $80, but knocked down to $70 for me, as far as I know it's still on the shelf. I think it's Crazy that people are paying that much for plinking ammo. Use to be $15 for 525rnds. May not get that low again, but if people stop paying the outragous price it will come back down in time.

Sal wrote:
September 05, 2013

Jon, you state in your article you did your home work. If that's the best you can do you get a D-. I don't know where you got your numbers but, my home work tells me DHS is up to about 1.6 billion rounds of ammo. It may not all be 40 cal. but it is still significant.You can see the purchase documents at over 1.5 million rounds of .223 hollow pt. and non, 220,000 rounds of 12ga. #7, 200,000 rounds of 12ga. #00 buck, 66,000 rounds of 12ga. slugs, 2 million rounds of .357 jhp., 4 million rounds of S&W .40 cal. JPH, 60,000 match grade .308 BTHP plus hundres of thousands of rounds of .38 sp., .45 and 7.62x39. Also, why is the U.S. Army buying millions of rounds of Russian 7.62x39. You can see the orders on the Federal Business Opportunities website posted July 18, 2013. The U.S. Army does not even have guns to shoot this ammo , but they are purchasing 2.5 million rounds of 7.62x39 ball, 575, 000 blanks and 425,000 of 9x18mm. Makarov Ball. All that is surely a lot of ammo and way more than you called out in your article. Spend more time on your homework.

Chad wrote:
September 05, 2013

It is the hoarders and scalpers fault. It's like Black Friday every Thursday morning at our Gander Mtn and Academy Sports. The same crew of people come in and buy all of the popular rounds and post them straight to Facebook for sale. Some have made so much doing it that they now have their own websites to sell it. Someone else already mentioned the solution. Quit buying it from private sellers no matter how desperate you are! Once they have spent all their cash on stocking up on ammo to sell and no one will buy it from them anymore they won't be able to rape the store shelves anymore.

Bob wrote:
September 05, 2013

Law enforcement officers all use hollow point ammunition. Most of it has actually been developed to meet FBI specifications. Just look up Hornady Critical Defense. You are misinformed and probably thinking of the Geneva Convention restrictions for use in war.

Greg wrote:
September 05, 2013

We most definitely are the problem. In my town I have a couple of Walmart employees that call me as soon as any ammo arrives. I then proceed to buy everything they have. The ammo is there most people just don't try hard enough

John Fife wrote:
September 05, 2013

Whitewash job. You acknowledge that price is not the object but don't fully explain why the market has not adjusted to increased demand. Capitalism, hello? What's constraining the market? Commodity markets - I don't buy it. There would be a run on scrap brass if that were the case. Is it federal regulation prohibiting importation of ammo, powder, or other components from some countries? Is it cartel-like behavior by the major manufacturers? Is it a regulatory environment constraining new manufacturing? When free market capitalism is broke, it's either greed or government that's to account - not consumer demand. Y'all keep blaming hoarders and that was reasonable in the short term while markets adjust, but it's been long term and now y'all are beginning to sound like dinks. In addition, your round count per cop/agent is specious, at best. The majority of cops/feds aren't gun guys and they shoot only enough to re-qual, and that's far, far less than your average count. Until you write about this in a way that doesn't pander to us and discount common sense, you'll only perpetuate a disservice to the industry and the shooting public. That's a nice way of asking you to wise up or shut up.

R Douglas wrote:
September 05, 2013

I've visited Sierra multiple times since the panic buying started. Round the clock bullet making and they can't catch up. Not all their production is 223 or 308. Starline next door same story. You can't blame the government when 32 H&R brass sells out a day after the run and so did the 90 gr .312 hollow points. People who haven't fired a shot in 10-years are buying cases just to be safe. Silly consumers.

Ken wrote:
September 04, 2013

Just took a class from a shooting instructor who travels all over the country to teach. He says the ammo sellers he has been talking to this year all have the same story to tell. When small ammo shipments do arrive its the same 10 or 15 guys who show up and buy it all before anyone else gets a shot at it. The sellers know the ammo is being scalped and resold for more, but they're not going to hold on to the inventory when someone is waving a fist of cash at them. So if you see someone selling $18 worth of bulk .22 for $125 don't buy it! The only way to discourage gouging is to make it an unprofitable business.

Darcy wrote:
September 04, 2013

Total BS I agree....Hoarding....yah right...Have not been able to purchase 22LR since January....Barely was able to get 5 boxes of Tula to break in my new AR that I spent 2 years building and seems the author forgot about the other 2 billion rounds DHS ordered and the million rounds the IRS purchased etc etc....Give me a break....Took me 6 months to hoard 500 small pistol primers but cant get the bullets to load them and have not seen any of my rifle powders since last November....

ReserveMedic wrote:
September 04, 2013

I wish I got the 590 rounds a year the SSA agent is allotted. I'm in the Reserves and we only get about 110 a year per soldier, if we're lucky. (That's grouping, zeroing, and qualifying twice a year with no practice in between.)

Anthony Langley wrote:
September 04, 2013

This is all bull for one reason and one reason only, and here it is. No government entity or official using government weapons on government time is ever and I mean ever allowed to use hollow point ammunition plain and simple.

Paul wrote:
September 04, 2013

I agree with the article. Since ammo has become short I have 'stocked up' on ammo. I bought 100 rounds of 9mm in the last 5 years. Now I have 1000 rounds in storage. Plus all the other ammo I have bought.

Dave wrote:
September 04, 2013

Just go to Cabelas or BassPro and ask them where the ammo is going. They will tell you. It's going to guys who are standing in line when the doors open in the morning, and who buy up everything on the shelf as soon as it is unpacked. But I think this article is dated, because ammo IS starting to become available again. Bubba has run out of cash, and now has the largest hoard of ammo his wife will allow him to keep in the closet, and now the rest of us can find the stuff again. I certainly have been able to over the past few weeks.

Fred wrote:
September 04, 2013

Scheels and Cabelas here in Reno have had ammo during most of this 'crisis'. I confess that .22 has been hit and miss, but 9.., .40 and 45 have not been an issue for me yet. As a matter of fact, I got two bulk packs of 100 rounds of Remington Ball and two bulk packs of Winchester .45 ball yesterday with no lines and plenty of supply.

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DariusL. wrote:
September 04, 2013

I'm sorry, I don't believe 'I' am the problem. The problem is I simply can't FIND any ammo to purchase!! This story is BS!!

Andy Robinson wrote:
September 04, 2013

The non-gun-owning public already perceives us gun enthusiasts as paranoid--why are we playing to type? The best way for ammunition companies to make more money is to run their production lines full tilt and reduce prices, not to withhold and raise prices. The last thing any manufacturer wants is warehouses full of a perishable, explosive product.

Billy M. Rhodes wrote:
September 04, 2013

OK, but almost 1400 rounds per officer, per year for Homeland Security, that's almost 4 per day or 30 rounds per week. I don't think these most of these Federal employees are shooting that much.

Melvin wrote:
September 04, 2013

I have seen women at the local Walmart, early in the morning, looking at the ammo cabinet, and reporting the stocks to someone else. Husbands? or a party who wants to buy up as much as he can of certain calibers. Perhaps hoarders. The only ammo I've been unable to find on sheves at Walmart, Bass Pro, and Academy, is .22 rimfire (any type), 9mm, and sometimes .30-30. Those stores tell me that there is no purchase limit on any caliber except those mentioned. On those, 2 per day.

Nolan wrote:
September 04, 2013

This article does not address or even acknowledge why police departments, who have always been able to and are still able to obtain their ammunition through municipal contracts directly with the wholesalers, are now walking into small business sporting goods stores with open P.O.s and laying claim to whatever small shipments might even be coming, long before they hit store shelves. This practice is not limited to the gear and ammunition they use for service, but for just about any caliber. Tell me, when was the last time a New York State Trooper used .22 LR in the line of duty? Then why are they buying it all from the local sporting goods store in Jamestown, NY? Do you due diligence, everyone. Watch your local sporting goods stores, and keep track of who shops there versus who obtains products there. You'll begin to notice a discouraging amount of civilians walking away empty handed, when the police are filling their cruisers' trunks. It's time to openly boycott ANY and ALL sporting goods stores that choose to sell OUR ammunition to publicly funded agencies that are already receiving THEIR ammunition through municipal contracts.

John OConnor wrote:
September 04, 2013

As an FFL in VA, I have a ammo manufactures license but the big 5 powder companies here in the US refused to set me up as a dealer to buy powder at reduced cost so I could make ammo! All 5 said no way. So its the powder manufactures that are keeping the prices high for their profit. At the current rate it would cost me around $1.05 just to make 1 bullet! By the way I have 22LR ammo in stock if any one needs any. Appalachian Sportsman Cub

Terry wrote:
September 04, 2013

Bull! Show me who's getting it instead of just pointing out the vaporous 'they'. I am a member of several shooting clubs and very active is the shooting community. Every one I know is having issues finding ammo and components. If 'consumers' are driving the shortage, then those 'consumers' are elite insiders leaving the rest of us scrambling.

Peter wrote:
September 04, 2013

I work at Wal-mart and believe me, It's not even coming into the store. So, who's hoarding what isn't even there. We used to get about a pallet of ammo on each delivery. Now, what does come in, the sporting goods dept. mgr is able to carry out to the floor in her arms.

Bob wrote:
September 04, 2013

What I have seen is that some in some store the ammo don't make it to the shelves.At our local Wal-Mart employees have been putting it aside and either buying it themselves or saving it for their family and friends.

Nathan wrote:
September 04, 2013

I believe it, it's what I've been saying all along. People used to buy only a few boxes, but now the firearms community population has exploded so when more people buy ammo and in larger amounts, there's a shortage. It's high school economics. Stop panicking and use only what you used to. Save the money and buy your kids and wife something nice...

Dustin wrote:
September 04, 2013

It says right in the article tons of new gun shops opening over the last 2 years, and places like hardware stores that didn't stock ammo now do to make money and tons of new shooters buying more ammo than ever.

T.behringer wrote:
September 04, 2013

Ammo making it to stores is at an all time low, distributors aren't even getting enough to sell dealers a box let alone a case or more that the used to get every week. If production is up, it should be hitting distributors and then retailers. For people to be hoarding ammo, there has to be ammo to hoard. They can say whatever they want, but fact is less ammo is hitting the shelves. They may be producing more, they just aren't selling it!

Brandon wrote:
September 02, 2013

Lets look at that whole supply and demand theory again and overlap it with the numbers the ammo companies are ' holding tight to their chest'. If you found away to make a 30[%] profit on your product without increasing your costs while lowering your overhead sounds like smart business huh? I bet there's alot of new shooters contributing to the shortage but why are the ammo manufactures hiding their numbers? I'd like to see some proof as opposed to them just saying ' oh yeah we're making lots more'.

Scott wrote:
August 30, 2013

This is BS I agree - How can it be hoarded when it is not even making it to store shelves. My local Wally World gets 2 or 3 boxes of .22 in a delivery, if that. So I guess if you have 20 people trying to purchase 2 boxes that is hoarding??? There is nothing to hoard!!!

John wrote:
August 30, 2013

So according to the author 'I' am the problem. Supposedly I have been running all over buying up all of the ammo - BS! Get a life. The fact is that I haven't purchased any ammo for over 2 years and that was 22 Long Rifle. The last time I bought primers was in September 2012 and they were in short supply then. The shelves are full of powder that nobody wants but nothing regular loaders use. With reloading components NON-EXISTENT for a year everywhere its hard to believe that I am the cause of the problem. Some people may be hording ammunition and components but even that is hard to believe in so much as there is nothing to buy anywhere.