Where's the .22 Rimfire?

It's the question that's been on consumers' minds for months: Where's the .22 rimfire? Here's an answer from inside the industry.

It's no secret that, for months now, .22 rimfire ammo hasn't been easy to find. Readers have regularly asked us for answers, and now we have a chance to offer one, straight from the source.

We regularly receive guests from throughout the industry at our Fairfax headquarters, and last week the folks from ATK—which, you'll remember, is responsible for Federal Premium and CCI, among other companies—paid visit. American Rifleman's Mark Keefe took advantage of the opportunity and didn't hesitate to pose the question our readers have long wanted an answer to. Check out the video embedded below and get the details from one of the industry's leading sources.

Read Dave Campbell's take on the .22 rimfire situation—and learn more about the cartridge's history—right here.

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359 Responses to Where's the .22 Rimfire?

jca245 wrote:
November 30, 2014

Back before the 2008 - 2009 shortage I used to keep 10 bulk packs of Wal Mart federal or whatever brand around for times when I had my friends and their kids out to the range. I myself use to shoot through 5000 to 7000 rounds per year. I also had some bricks of target quality ammo for special occasions. When the 2008 shortage happened, and dragged into 2009, I had used up all but 2 bricks of the 10 and started using my air guns more as there was not a shortage on pellets. Once the shortage broke at the end of 2009 and 22 ammo was plentiful, I started buying ammo by the case and kept 2 cases of bulk in reserve. In the early part of 2012, our local Mahoney's had stacks of CCI Blazer bulk pack cases in the store going for 144.99 per case. That was the lowest I has seen it is a long time. So during the course of the year I stocked up on 4 cases of it, always seeing waist high pallet stacks left on the floor and thinking that there is plenty to go around. Then the school shooting happen in December. By the middle of January I could not find any 22 ammo. Now I still had several cases of plinking ammo and felt like I could weather another 18 months. However, there is something new happening that is extending this latest fiasco. The ammo 'gangs' that pick up any that is on the shelf then head down to the flea market and sell for double the price. And the people who are now scared, did not plan for something like this happening and now starting to horde during the shortage, causing more shortages, even though there are some ammo deliveries showing up on shelves. SO there are many factors causing this latest shortage. Until people start wizening up and not buying the over priced ammo the scabs are selling at the flea market, they will keep grabbing the ammo every time it is coming in and we will never see things settle down. Until then, I just bought a 22 caliber Air Force Condor SS PCP air rifle. It will shoot pellets over 1200 FPS and is accurate enough to hit a ping pong ball at 100 yards more times than not ( on a calm day). No, it is not a 22 rim fire and cannot do everything the same, but it is good for a guy like me who target shoots as often as possible. And yes, I started buying 22 caliber pellets by the case. LOL Hard lessons are best learned while there are no shortages. Good luck and take care all.

empty chambers wrote:
November 28, 2014

Just cowboy up and admit that six years of fanning the flames of obamageddon has created panic hoarding and 22lr being the cheapest, is the most hoarded. Almost 2 years and I still can't find this ammo consistently on shelves. It's not a consumption issue!

Stan wrote:
October 18, 2014

O sure. We believe what ever you say. And soilent green is not people...

Rich wrote:
September 16, 2014

What bothers me the most is that I can't take my 71 year old Father shooting with me anymore. Because of his age the 22LR is the only rifle he is comfortable with. I haven't been able to even get a box of 50rds in almost a year. All the bored soccer moms who have the time to go to Walmart every single day need to stop buying bricks for $25 and selling them on Gunbroker for $80. You are ruining something that I love to share with my Father.

Jack wrote:
September 09, 2014

Seriously, stop stockpiling rimfire ammo. It's not the end of the world. Buy what you need and use it, stop calling your buddies when rimfire is on the shelf. This isn't rocket science, If you have more than a 6 month supply (or much more), the problem is YOU. Also, avoid scalpers, don't buy when the price is at 10 cents or more per round. You're just teaching middle men to buy up the supply and put twice as much of your money in their pockets.

Jerry wrote:
September 09, 2014

If shooters would simply stop hoarding, we would all have the rimfire ammo we need. When people buy 5000-10,000 rounds of ammo 'to use'. That makes no sense. Buy a few hundred rounds and use them. Hoarding means the ammo we need is stored at some else's house because they bought all that was on the shelf.

Pat wrote:
August 18, 2014

I was lucky enough to be able to secure 7000 rounds this past weekend. I plan on using it and not trying to sell it for a profit.

Ralph Jordan wrote:
August 17, 2014

I believe they have created this hardship to raise the price. Our .22 sits in the closet. No target practice and my yard is full of critters.

Larry wrote:
August 16, 2014

Walmart has it sporadically. They limit it to 1 box per day. After a couple trips to the store you have enough to go plinking with. Price is OK also.

shootbrownelk wrote:
August 16, 2014

In my opinion, Keefe didn't ask any hard questions. I'll buy the statement that they're cranking out 4 million rds. per day. What Keefe should have asked is just WHO are they selling it to? Our walmart hasn't had any .22 ammo in over a month now. If walmart isn't a major buyer, then who is? I liked the post another guy on here made, reminiscing about 50 rd. boxes of .22's for $0.50. I dearly miss paying $1.00 for 5 gallons of gas when stations used to have price wars! Another guy posted that the shortage will be another 1 & 1/2 yrs. That's what they said 2 years ago! And, you can't hoard what isn't available. just my $0.02.

Pap wrote:
August 16, 2014

In our area .22 LR is scarce as hens teeth. One shop had a brick for $90. I don't believe the company rep something is fishy. This didn't ease into happening, it was like a switch was thrown after Newtown.

airborneveteran wrote:
August 15, 2014

Just back from the Texas 4H State Shooting Sports Games and it was unfortunate to see the youth who didn't have the proper ammo to make their semiauto 22 pistols cycle properly. (some just had subsonic 22 target ammo that jams like crazy in semis) Unfortunately, we're about to join that group. My kids used most of our remaining CCI Mini Mags and similar ammo during those games.

Buckbuster wrote:
August 15, 2014

The shortage is on the web, not in the gun shops where I spend my money. I live on the east coast and since 'newtown', have bought .22 and seen .223 for sale every time I visit my small mom & pop shops.

Metalchemist wrote:
August 15, 2014

You can put me down for at least 4 master containers. That's 40 boxes of 500+. Then I can take my son out to the shooting range again.

Tim wrote:
August 14, 2014

Funny, Our 4H Shooting Sports Club just received a box of 5000 back in June without a problem. I can't even find a box of 50. Shortage, I think not.

williamII wrote:
August 14, 2014

Playing it safe with existing equipment is smart business, eh? So is competitiveness in the marketplace. My observations have been that offshore producers are grabbing significant market share. When 5.56 ammo was scarce I found it little problem to come up with quality PPU

Ambrose from Los Angeles wrote:
August 14, 2014

I have a ruger 10/22 and it stinks that I can't use it just to plink around, maybe I should sell it. I'm using it. One day I found a brick from a local gun shot 45 bucks, the owner told me it took a year and a half to get a order delivered..

Mark wrote:
August 14, 2014

I remember when you could buy a box of 50 for 50 cents.

Kayla wrote:
August 14, 2014

The supply and demand isn't permanent enough for companies to expand and spend thousands of dollars on machinery and man power to produce something that is going to end in a few months. A two year blep in sales doesn't justify spending $500,000 on equipment that will end up sitting and rusting and even more unemployment money dished out by the government. If they did, then consumers would see that they could get it anytime and stop buying up as soon as they see it. I work in retail and can already say that it's getting easier to find. Brands like Augilla(sp?) are mass producing the 22. And plenty types of it and it's hanging around because people now that they can get it. It's gone from people wanting anything they can get to them only wanting bulk packs. It's turning into a 'beggars CAN be choosers' scenario. The best thing to do is to weigh your options and either wait it out, or invest in a different caliber. In the end, the companies are going to produce more of what they make more money off of.

FlipArnold wrote:
August 13, 2014

Hoarding is really wrong. You can't fight the good fight alone. Leave some for the rest of us!!!!

Frank wrote:
August 13, 2014

MOVE to a different caliber.... 223, 5.56, 7.62, whatever. There's plenty of stuff out there....and remember BIGGER (longer range) calibers place you further from a fire-fight that might break out. Break out the wallet and go bigger.

Proverbs wrote:
August 13, 2014

Well congratulations, Dr. Honus Selfish, AKA Hoarder Exhibit #1. Thanks to you and others, our children can't get .22 for the squirrel and rabbit seasons. And you are discouraging a generation of young shooters who may not get many opportunities. You might even be responsible for the loss of potential recruits to the shooting world. Most start out with .22. Maybe now they won't start at all. Pretty short-sighted thinking on your 'serious stuff' going down mentality.

Paul wrote:
August 13, 2014

Last week I bought several 50 rd boxes of sub-sonic 22 rim fire in Oklahoma at 5.00 a box, but they had no HP22 ammo on the shelve . FYI. The clerk said they never get reg. 22 ammo.

Paul Madsen wrote:
August 13, 2014

Walmart never has any 22 ammo , the word I have is that friends of Walmart have a deal that when a shipment comes in it goes to the friends before getting to the shelves, rumor.

Louie wrote:
August 13, 2014

They are banning the large battle packs of M80 ball ammo now, in 500 packs only or loose reloaded privi-partisan ammo from Bosnia which has stretched cases.. Who makes decent 7.62x51 NATO ball ammo?

Jeffrey Huddle wrote:
August 13, 2014

ATK is producing ammo 24/7. They have not raised their price to distributor s for years. It is the distributors that are dotting on Oct to increase their profits. This is the truth.

Jim wrote:
August 13, 2014

Recently checked at the local Walmart, guy behind counter said they are not getting any .22lr because the manufactors want too much money for the little ammo produced and Walmart will not pay their inflated prices. So, the hoarders and the one who pay the price get moved to the front of the line. Guess everyone needs to stop buying it from what ever source and stop the madness.

Dr. Honus Ellerud wrote:
August 13, 2014

I hoard up as much 22 as I can. Even when I don't need it I still buy it. There's about to be some serious stuff going down and when it does I will be four-corners ready. As of my last count I have 38,245 rounds of it in two safes. Both safes have zero humidity and are fireproof.

Ginger Franklin wrote:
August 13, 2014

I know when my son and his team were competing in NRA/YHEC (Youth Hunter Education Challenge) they were having a rough time getting ammo just to practice. When the local gun club received a shipment, they called or emailed our club to let them know they were only available per brick. So whenever we could we bought. My son Lenny G. Young III, took Third in the Nation in overall Senior Competition and Team totally took 10 awards for PA. Thanks to the local Sporting Gun and Archery Club for providing that extra step to help our youth achieve their goals!

Dry in CO, [(]Broncos are #2 ![)] wrote:
August 13, 2014

I hadn't owned a .22 for 25+ years. Saw a special on 'Appleseed'. I bought a 50th Anniversary Ruger 10-22 Takedown on sale, thought it odd they were out of .22 LR at the time. Then, I found out about the .22 LR shortage. I suspect people with the .22 'practice' guns, (same ergonomics as the standard larger caliber models), shoot a LOT of .22 ammo. I hope at some point, the availability increases, the need to 'HOARD' it goes away, and the price goes back to a believable level } :

Robert wrote:
August 13, 2014

I know the Wal-mart down the road from the house gets ammo shipments on tuesdays and fridays. They place the few boxes they actually get behind the counter at 7 am. If you don't show up before 7:20 you won't get a single round. There are still hundreds of people 'scared' or 'hoarding' for themselves on top of the people selling them at jacked up prices. I even have fiends who will go to the store when I can't and call me if the rounds are there. But guys, come on. Its not just Wal-mart that is causing the issue. All of the box stores and most of the sporting shops in my area sell out as soon as they get them. A few of the shops are even hoarding the rounds so folks who buy a new firearm can pick up one or two boxes.

Joe wrote:
August 13, 2014

Ammo shortages - another form of gun control? Can't get the legislation passed, so buy up all the ammo?

Gman wrote:
August 13, 2014

Someone needs to sick Jesse Ventura on the producers of the ammo and follow the shipments to their destinations.

Step Awn wrote:
August 13, 2014

22 shells are like the beanie babies of ammo. I will be glad when this is over.

cory cameron wrote:
August 13, 2014

Reeds in walker mn has an abundance of .22 lr ammo.

Allen Hawthorne wrote:
August 13, 2014

If the shortage is intentional, will the Fed (FTC) step in to make the situation even worse?

SJ wrote:
August 12, 2014

I buy the hoarding & scalping argument for the most part, but it still fails to explain the tiny quantities most stores receive. What channels is it moving through? It is like some well connected cronies have started their own supply chain to quietly fill the garages of their friends- for a handsome price. It sure isn't anywhere I can find locally. So I won't be doing much rimfire shooting until i can find ammo both conveniently and reasonably.

Gary wrote:
August 12, 2014

Actually I know several people who work at walmart who said they buy it by the 'box' as in a case=1 box, and they put it back to buy it after their shift is over. When it comes off the truck.

Dana wrote:
August 12, 2014

There is a shortage because people are hoaring 10's of thousands of rounds. The companies dont expand because when the demand drops, they will be stuck with lots of extra equipment and facilities that they won't be able to use anymore.

art wrote:
August 12, 2014

I've heard from someone in the industry say that there's tiny margins to be made with .22. Companies are still producing it but not at the rate we would like. The emphasis is on other calibers which yield higher margins.

kyle pierce wrote:
August 12, 2014

I am finding 22 ammo all over i now have close to 100,000 rounds i am buying it almost every day my alloted 500 rounds Northern Wisconsin is where it's at and yes it is insanely stocked in Canada was at a scoring store last week and they had almost 50000 rounds of cci just setting on the shelf

Major TJ Kong wrote:
August 12, 2014

There is no money making .22 ammo. They are making ammo that brings in the most profit.

Therooster wrote:
August 12, 2014

IMO, the only way these will hit the shelves at prices from several years ago and not be in shortage, is to stop buying from all these people who buy then resell for triple the original price! Let's them hoard all these shells, if nobody buys them, less people are going to try reselling and screwing people. I loved shooting .22s. But I refuse to pay what they are going for now. .22s were cheap to shoot,and until that comes back, I'm not buying. I know a guy who works the sporting goods at a wal Mart. He buys pretty much every brick and resells for a good profit. Do you think all these people that you ask about getting ammo in will tell you that they are just buying them all up just to resell for triple the price? No.

Gary Dover wrote:
August 12, 2014

This isnt the whole answer!!!! Its going somwhere besides stores

Drakien wrote:
August 12, 2014

I have no problems finding it when I need some. Just look around at your small dealers such as pawn shops who specialize in guns, they get a few rounds in every now and then. Also find out when your local sporting goods store gets their shipments. If you really want ammo, you can buy it for a little more online from select retailers. On average I pay 8 cents a round online. In stores closer to 5 cents a round. If you live in a larger city you'll have more people to contend with. Find a smaller town close to you and keep an eye out in that town. Watch the Wal-Mart website for when they have unknown quantities. Means they'll have bullets the next morning. *wake up early if you want guaranteed bullets.

Catfisherokie wrote:
August 12, 2014

I can find it in Oklahoma City but only 2 boxes at a time will be sold. A friend told me that the ammo coming into Dicks sporting goods here locally never gets out on the shelves. The employees keep it in back for themselves and friends to purchase.

Billy macglone wrote:
August 12, 2014

Reloading kits were very popular when i was a child make ur own

shane wrote:
August 12, 2014

in our area the problem is ppl go and stand in line and take theyre friends buy it all out then sell for 3 times msrp online

David Easley wrote:
August 12, 2014

If everyone would stop buying them for a month or so and giving the high prices for them they would go down andbe plentiful. They are driving The prices up by throttling production.

George wrote:
August 12, 2014

People tend to believe just about everything they hear and see nowadays. The Federal rep say they are running 24/7 and that CCI is doing the same. Mention is made that demand is up. What he failed to mention is how the ammo is being distributed. I for one would like to have access to that spreadsheet and ascertain if distribution to the major players has remained the same of decreased.

Bob wrote:
August 12, 2014

Jacob, You have no idea what you are talking about. I work at a wm and we are not allowed to buy any ammo unless we are off the clock. WEhy not ask the customers who bring in their wives and girlfriends and uncles and every other member of their family and their friends to buy up everything that comes in. Because of those greedy people we cant even get any.

Frank E wrote:
August 12, 2014

I go into Walmart every week to get my weekly no! Don't even have to ask anymore.

Beau Casey wrote:
August 12, 2014

Was just on GunsInternational.com and numerous sellers have 22 ammo for sale.

Ron wrote:
August 12, 2014

I work for one of the largest firearm/ammo retailers in the U.S. And I had a customer come in last month who drove to our store in Illinois through Canada. He told me that every firearm store he stopped in in Canada was jam packed with American made .22 LR ammo. Shelves full everywhere in Canada.

Brian wrote:
August 12, 2014

$16 per box of 222 shots. If you think it is difficult to find .22 rf, try finding .35 remingtons

Dewayne Walters wrote:
August 12, 2014

The 22 is out there. You have to call around regularly and look for it. You will probably have to drive to get it. Usually the best time to find it is in the morning. Call, call, call, find out when the inventory arrives and be on top of it. I've bout over 8000 rounds in the last year at normal prices, all by being vigilant. Or you can just keep complaining and citing conspiracy theories.

Juddie wrote:
August 12, 2014

The worst thing is when it is available, people who either do or do not own firearms are buying it and then resellling it on Facebook groups for double and triple the price. As long as there are folks who will pay these ridiculous prices to get 22's we will have a hard time seeing 22 ammo for those of us who like to shoot 22. Honestly, the ATF needs to monitor FB to find guys who do not have a license to sell ammo and nail them to the wall.

La man wrote:
August 12, 2014

I live in North Louisiana and around here it seems to be the pawn shops buying all of the .22 ammo. There is a line of people on the days the ammo comes in and its all pawn shop owners, their employees, and families.

glen biddle wrote:
August 12, 2014

everyone has a 22. people are hoarding due to shortages. political climate. easier and cheaper to shoot 22 than big calibers. as for this so called interview, the rep needs a comb and lose the frat boy look. i could have answered any of those softball questions. bottom line is, if you are looking for ammo now you planned poorly int he past. the night of the elections, i bought as much as i could online knowing what was doing ahead.

Michael Dom wrote:
August 12, 2014

Check out dicks sporting goods, they've treated me pretty good! One 500rd box per license though...

Jacob Keever wrote:
August 12, 2014

Say what you want, but the only way to git rid of guns is through ammo!

Steven W wrote:
August 12, 2014

Just send me my 2 bricks (1000 rds) of .22LR a month I will be happy. And I can/will share with my friends too.

phil wrote:
August 12, 2014

Doing a lot of swaying there as he explains that. Not too believable.

Seth wrote:
August 12, 2014

I have had good luck getting 22lr at the academy by my house. They do limit how much you can buy and it is more expensive than it was in the past. I think the price inflation is due to supply an demand. I've gone to three different cabelas multiple times with no luck. I've gone to two bass pro's a few times and got some once. Forget about wal mart. I think this shortage is how I picked up a 10/22 for $50. So maybe it's not all bad and since I seem to have found a place carrying it finally I'm getting a little less worried.

coonskincap wrote:
August 12, 2014

I don't believe him. They're in the business to make money. They have a huge opportunity to make it and they don't take advantage of it? It doesn't make sense.

Edward P. Steele wrote:
August 12, 2014

I believe that .22 rim fire ammo is at an all time demand . I for one have been buying more then I have ever bought before. I am training all seven of my grandchildren to shoot, so I am one of the guilty parties that are buting more than I used to. Sorry.

Rick wrote:
August 12, 2014

Why can we not purchase directly from the factory without a business license or ffl? The supply and demand, and minimal distribution allows merchants and factories to set a premium price. Don't you just love big business lol. Wait until they figure out how to limit the shelf life of ammo........

austin schmidt wrote:
August 12, 2014

I was just back in the states for 2 week we went to 2 Cabelas, 1 Dicks, and 2 Wallmarts they all had tons of 22LR the stores were in DE, CT, and NY

Dan OConnor wrote:
August 12, 2014

Not sure I can fully believe that. It seems to me that this shortage came upon us suddenly, and the next thing we knew it was non-existant and prices spiked upward. Still .22's are difficult to get . Still thinking the gun control freaks have a part... if we can't ban the guns we'll make it difficult to get ammo.

Michael wrote:
August 12, 2014

His body language tells me he is covering up something. Either .22LR is not as profitable as they want it to be so they are creating the shortage to raise prices, or the resources are better spent on other ammo.

Wayne H. Franklin wrote:
August 12, 2014

What's this 'permit' everyone keeps talking about? By the way, I've got lots of .22 in my stash. I can't find any decent .44 Mag for a reasonable price.

Dave from Marietta wrote:
August 12, 2014

Multiple gun store retailers (Walmart, Cabella's, Georgia Arms, Outdoor Adventures, J&G Sales, iAmmo, more) all tell me the same thing: in the past 2+ years! they are receiving less than 5[%] of the inbound stock that they used to receive. And their costs are much, much higher. If true, then demand has increased AT LEAST 10-15x AND has lasted for at least 2 years! Does this sound right? And I did not even take into account 'reported' increased production.

cory wrote:
August 12, 2014

They can't take away the guns so they r slowly startin w/ the ammo.

ronnie wrote:
August 12, 2014

Just like gas.. Supply went down and prices went up. Get used to seeing this company tactic on everything..

John wrote:
August 12, 2014

It's not supply and demand at the factory level. .22LR has not gone up that much over the years. The inflation and high prices are coming from the retailers, and scalpers. When my local Wal-Mart gets it, it is still affordable. The problem is all of the hoarders and a-holes that don't have to work for a living, so they have nothing better to do than stand in line at 6am with their five buddies, so they can buy their daily limit cheap, and resale it high. If we want .22 LR ammo back in stock, everyone needs to stop buying ammo from the scalpers. Seriously, it won't kill us to do without for a few months. When these crooks see they are not going to make anymore money off of us, the will stop. Then all of the surplus ammo they are setting on will show up at regular if not discounted prices. Look at AR 15 lowers. Same thing happened with them.

TOM WRIGHT wrote:
August 12, 2014

One of our local farm & ranch stores that always had .22 ammo hasnt had any in awhile, when i asked them about it they said they have stopped carrying it because they were having so much trouble getting it... so WHO is buying it all or is that guy just full of it... almost all sporting goods stores AND wal mart has a limit of 1 or 2 bricks per day...even for employees. a friend works for sportsmans warehouse and is only allowed 1 per week... so, again...who is buying it all?!?!?

f. Meyer wrote:
August 12, 2014

Very hard to find

Cody wrote:
August 12, 2014

Guns and ordnance out in Hall have all the .22 ammo you need and usuly will let u get what you need because there isn't a lot of ppl buying their ammo up yet.

Ron wrote:
August 12, 2014

here is a question... who are the top 10 buyers for the ammo? lets get the truth out now... i think its time we all knew the truth.

DKettles wrote:
August 12, 2014

Worked at a gun shop in NM, watched it slow to a trickle, then stop coming completely. It's just as bad in the DFW area in TX. I know that there are a lot of new shooters, and hoarders, but it still doesn't explain the TOTAL lack of availability to distributors, and retailers....where is it all going if they are making so much?

Gary wrote:
August 12, 2014

If they do build A new manufacturing plant you can bet your bottom dollar it will be built in China! So much for creating American job's.

Billy l wrote:
August 12, 2014

If so much is being made and people are buying it with friends and family then why is it a friend who ones a gun store is on a back order list that is so long??

Dionicio G wrote:
August 12, 2014

I have been looking for a while at all the big stores, i call at least twice a week at 9am gander mntn, mc sports, walmart, farm n fleet ect, and the places I've had thr most luck are the small local shops, its mot cci or anything, mostly remington's golden hollow point bucket o' bullets , Aguila ammo , but hey ill take what i can get!

Peter Young wrote:
August 12, 2014

Im from Australia and we have the same problem, NO .22 bullets, we have to travel 7 hrs to a shop that don't not sell them dear, and when we go, evenyone else puts in there order, there should be a limit for .22's like just namel shooters should have cup of 5k, pros and hunters should have cap to 10-15k.

Neall West wrote:
August 12, 2014

What I don't understand is that retailers are encouraging this situation by not having wait lists and enforcing limits. I know it's inconvenient, but they're going to regret it when fewer and fewer young people become avid shooters because ammo is so hard to find or expensive.

Phil Robbins wrote:
August 12, 2014

Its not only hoarders it's also The Preppers

Kenny wrote:
August 12, 2014

When AR-15's were scarce, local pawn shops and gun stores were sending employees to buy them at our local Wally World to put in their shops at a jacked up price. Those are the same dealers that want people to buy locally instead of off the internet. I am sure they are doing the same thing with .22 ammo. The gun store that I have done business with for the past 10 years was one of those scalping the AR-15's. I will not walk into their store again.

Dave wrote:
August 12, 2014

I know for a fact that .22 ammo will not be avaliable for a year in a half, this comes from a long time owner of a firearm shop in Ligonier PA.

Roberta Evans wrote:
August 12, 2014

We're losing members left and right at our gun club, because there are no 22LR to be had for our Rifle matches. This is plain and simple BS.

PRK_Saboteur wrote:
August 12, 2014

Who would have guessed .22lr would be the weak link? The cheapest, most widely available ammo in the world? I would have guessed 5.56 would be the panic mode round.

harold wrote:
August 12, 2014

I was in a mom and pop gun store in Vermont last week and this feller had well over 10,000 rounds of 22lr at $70 a brick I bought my grandson a marlin 2 years ago and havent seen a box of 22s sense here in Illinois so I bought as many bricks of CCI 22lr as i had extra money for now he can practice before squirrel season... hes in Heaven

Robert wrote:
August 12, 2014

I work at a walmart in Illinois. We will get a couple of boxes ( usually m-22 1000 ct ) about once a month or a case of 10 each Remington 225 count once a month. Walmart has about 5000 store in the U.S and if every store gets 2 boxes of 1000 ct that's about 10 million rounds per shipment. There is where most of your rounds go.

jean shellenberger wrote:
August 12, 2014

Where we finally found some, it was a two matchbox limit !!! When we ask at walmart, they said that ship has not sailed yet !!!!

Joem wrote:
August 12, 2014

You'll find in many,many areas people who have stands in flea mkt.s etc. are buying it out of the stores as soon as it arrives and then re selling it slightly higher. That's happening A LOT!!

Mark wrote:
August 12, 2014

I've had 3 kinds of 22 LR on backorder from MidwayUSA for over a year now - from when they were still taking backorders- they no longer do so. If Midway can't get it, who the heck can?

jim wrote:
August 12, 2014

I run a gun shop in Kansas. I can say that no, the government is not buying it all. The people are doing it to themselves. We now get guys in all day long that want to buy all they can whenever they find it. We only sell up to 100 rounds at a time and DONT OVERCHARGE FOR IT. We hear the conspiracy stories all the time. The government is buying it all, they are dumping it in the ocean, Obama told the ammo companies to stop making it, it is amazing what people believe. Pure and simple, STOP HOARDING!!!!!! If the Walmart ammo shoppers would stop buying and turning it around for a buck, it might just get better. I get 22 ammo in very slowly. In the last month, I have received about 7500 rounds or so. Selling it at two boxes per person, it lasts about a week. That much in a normal year would last about a month. Also, the prices haven't really gone up all that much with our distributors. I keep my prices normal because I don't want my customers to think I took advantage of them. I want their business when times are hard too.

Alan Schmitz wrote:
August 12, 2014

Go to bulkammo.com daily and watch for it. It's there regularly. Yes it is $10-$12 per 50. Would rather pay that and have ammo or sit and wait another year to try and get some for $5-$7 at Crap-Mart? I like shooting. I'm not waiting and going without and unable to enjoy my hobby. I'll pay the price.

Conrad Yust wrote:
August 12, 2014

I have SOME .22 shells, but gave up on getting any more. Bought a .17 HMR rifle and LOVE IT! .22LR travels at 1230 FPS, .17 HMR runs at 2550 FPS, and flat as east Texas. Shells look like a miniature 30-06. 500 shells cost $119.95. (.24 each) Sweet weapon!!!!!!

mike feemster wrote:
August 12, 2014

something don't add up here i went to Wal-Mart less then 30 miles from headquarters and they told me they haven't had any in over a year

Bruce wrote:
August 12, 2014

This is 100[%] about hoarding and scalping. We've seen this happen every time an opportunity to buy something and sell it for a higher prices comes along. It doesn't matter if it's Cabbage Patch Dolls or .22LR, human nature is the same. The up side will be once the GOP takes the Senate back and Obama leaves the White House, the paranoia level will fall and all that ammo is going to come back on the market and most of the jagoffs who are causing problems today will lose their asses.

raz wrote:
August 12, 2014

Think .22 is bad try .22 mags! I am seeing some 22lr and .17 HMRs are easiest but .22 mag is this side of extinct.

David wrote:
August 12, 2014

I have a lot, but I also own quit a few 22's that I love to shoot. I have been finding them in the little stores along the road, out side of town. stores that sell antique plus fishing and more have a few boxes on the shelf's. still able to pick up a box for around 2.00 per 50. not bad. you just have to look in the small places. What I cant find is any 22 mag rounds. when I do I will stock up on them, sorry just the way it is.

James wrote:
August 12, 2014

What a Load Of GARBAGE! Supply and Demand.... Ok SURE.... I and Many more Shooters that I know used to shoot hundreds of rounds a weekend, and there was NEVER any shortage of rounds. Now because there are more people into shooting there is a shortage. BS! Because all the good ol boys I shoot with; like myself can't find ANY .22lr Ammo! So if the Use is down and the production up... Where is it going. I think we all know where. Keep the Ammo from the guns and you have 'Gun Control'..

David wrote:
August 12, 2014

So if they are making so much more then why is the cost so high. For years and years you could buy .22LR for about $1.50/ box or less.

Kitt wrote:
August 12, 2014

To everyone asking where the new factories are? Guess what, in 2008/09 everyone expanded, and in the end, everyone lost, billions. Because of the simple fact that this level of sales cannot last, building multi-million dollar new factories that then require hundreds of thousands in maintenance each year there after just doesn't make any economic sense. WE are the problem, and I have no illusions about claiming myself. I have bought .22 LR when I've found it for no other reason than because 'I can'. I don't need to, I have a few thousand rounds sitting around and barely any time to shoot it. But I've bought more and more because it's hard to find. Well, it's the most prolific chambered round in the world, and more and more new shooters buy in, of course there will be less. And like has been mentioned, go to the internet. It's out there!! Ten minutes of searching and I could have bought 10,000+ rounds if I had the inclination. ammoengine.com or whatever site you prefer.

Rox wrote:
August 12, 2014

sounds like this would be the business to start, show them alittle competition.....supply and demand

KyleK wrote:
August 12, 2014

STOP GUNBROKER FROM ALLOWING FOLKS TO SELL 22lr THROUGH THEIR WEBSITE. That will stop the retirees that line up on 'shipping days' from buying it at Walmart, Meijer, Dicks, etc... to sell online. If Gunbroker announced that in three days they would cease to allow the sale of 22lr online... you would see a boat load sell for regular price and then it would start to show up on the shelves again. This is not Gunbroker's fault but they can help the cause by helping the folks trying to buy a box of 22lr for themselves and not for online sales.

Dan wrote:
August 12, 2014

I have found that most companies have been hoarding the ammo and having big 'blow out sales' for boxes of 550 for $45-75 a box. Simply because when they stock pile it for months they can charge that kind of prices. What happened to the $20 at the most a box of 550 prior to the scare?

Jake Speed wrote:
August 12, 2014

Quit buying .22 and foil the plan. I have not & will not buy a single round at the inflated prices. Last time I bought .22 was June 2012!

Tony DiDonato wrote:
August 12, 2014

He did ask the correct question, the question should have been: Who is the top 10 people or company's ordering the 22 amo on a percentage of all made during the last year.

Tony wrote:
August 12, 2014

I don't believe it. In mid 2012, CCI put out a video on how 22 ammunition is made. They stated they ship 4 million rounds a day, 16 pallets of ammunition, 125 cases every day. They are working around the clock now to meet the demand....over 4 million rounds a day! Where is it? I have not seen 22 ammunition in my area in over 2 years. 2 times I was alerted to CCI ammo instock online and it was gone in seconds. I think it's all a lie. America, stop buying the 22 ammunition, let's see if it builds up on store shelves and prices drop. I bet it won't.

Bill wrote:
August 12, 2014

I work at W----t. It is bull that employees are buying up all of the 22 bullets. That rumor has bit the dust long ago. Look at the lines when we get 22's. Everyone that gets theirs get out the cell phone and calls their buddies. The bullets are gone in less than an hour!

Jacob wrote:
August 12, 2014

The ammo is hard to come by because .22s aren't worth as much. The factories have such a demand for other calibers that they don't want to spend the money to produce the .22 ammo.

McMike wrote:
August 12, 2014

It's like he said 'lost of new consumers buying' ... and under the present political administration .. everyone is afraid of new laws and people are stockpiling for the future ..

KY Girl wrote:
August 11, 2014

I work for a company that received a half million rounds about a week ago and it's sold out. People are buying it as fast as it comes in. I think it's a combination of people hoarding it and the addition of many new shooters since the gun ban scare of 2013. The request for permits doubled and tripled in some areas after the political scramble to ban firearms.

Brent wrote:
August 11, 2014

Sorry, this is BS. Was in Dicks today the guy said they have gotten no 22 in a month. It's not even getting to the stores!

Jacob wrote:
August 11, 2014

Why not ask the stores where it is going. I know of one of the worlds largest known stores.W-----T. That the employees are buying up the shells, so it never gets on the shelves for the public to but. And if it does it they are 22 shorts.

FRED THOMAS wrote:
August 11, 2014

If 22 Ammo is being made by Federal and it is unavailable in Stores, and Federal does not know who is buying it, why can't consumers buy directly from the Ammo makers??? The interview by Okeefe is 'lacking'. It was not informative at all. The replies by the Federal Rep is very vague and NOT totally the reasons that he provided as to the shortage.

don wrote:
August 11, 2014

The ammo is out there. I only shoot 22LR. You just have to be in the right place at the right time. The places I get it have restrictions on how much you can buy because they offer it a fare prices. The places that don't , their prices are off the charts.

L.H. Brunner wrote:
August 11, 2014

It's all on Gunbroker.com. Hundreds of thousands of rounds for sale at ridiculous prices. Last time I checked there were 26 pages of 22 lr ammo.

Robert Ashton wrote:
August 11, 2014

If they are making so much ammo, why is it not even getting to the stores?

Chris Parkins wrote:
August 11, 2014

I do not believe that at all.You are no better than the oil companies.You created shortage.

Richard wrote:
August 11, 2014

Where is the shotgun reloading powder???

Ed wrote:
August 11, 2014

OK. He's making it but he didn't say where it is or where it's going. It's not in the stores, it's not at the gun shows and it's not available at any of the online suppliers. He's making it around the clock but no one has any !!! WHERE IS IT GOING !?

Melissa Ryker wrote:
August 11, 2014

Why can't I find 22LR any were. were is the Ammo?

Derick wrote:
August 11, 2014

However, the question remains of why is it. That stores continually get less and less in each shipment coming in. The shipments get smaller.

Dave Stone wrote:
August 11, 2014

I really miss buying a box of 50 shorts for 29 cents and longs for $.49. I would rather shoot copperclads.I only have about 3000 lead Ted Williams bullets bought in 1961 from Sears.I wonder if I should save them.

DR wrote:
August 11, 2014

If it is demand then show me the data. How much growth? How much factory expansion? Interview retailers as well as manufacturers please!

art baker wrote:
August 11, 2014

Bottom is this, where are they selling it ? Who is buying it and providing resale? NO answers here!!

Jim wrote:
August 11, 2014

some folks sure must be stocking up, as I have not seen any on the shelves!

steve wrote:
August 11, 2014

My company can take bare land full of weeds and in 4 months new Homeowners move in. Now think about this. A completed home from bare ground and they can not even make a rim fire .22 at a reasonable cost. Something is bs here.

Bob Taylor wrote:
August 11, 2014

Walmart was getting 22lr sometimes twice or three times a week. Now it seems they have it about once or twice a month!! Any ideas why this is?? Plus Dick's Sporting Goods just today had 22lr for the first time in a couple of months!! I live outside Kansas City, Missouri!!

robert sebille wrote:
August 11, 2014

If sale are up why the increase in price?

Bill wrote:
August 11, 2014

He didn't answer any question. We're making it as fast as we can.... Where is it?

mike wrote:
August 11, 2014

send me some 22 Lr shells would be nice cant find none up my way thanks

Jim wrote:
August 11, 2014

In the last month, I have found 3 boxes of 50 rounds amd 2 boxes of 100, @ big 5. They told me it was on the shelf a few days. Dumb luck I guess. All of it was CCI.

penny wrote:
August 11, 2014

Demand??? Maybe some, but not all the reason.

Richard Levangie wrote:
August 11, 2014

not only .22 cal, but .222, .223, 9mm… all the small rounds and the others are rather expensive all within a few years (i'm sure stupid had something to do with it between invading countries etc…). just doesn't add up !

aaron wrote:
August 11, 2014

I work at cabelas, and I can tell you that we get it regularly once or twice a week. lots of 50 rnd boxes and even quite a bit of bulk and bricks, so its definitely out there. what I've noticed is that it flies off the shelves after only a few hours so you gotta get there early. its so cheap that people are buying it all up. I think people see a need for some kind of ammo with the country in the state that its in and .22 is the cheapest. also we get a lot of customers that don't play fair. many of them have seen the rise in demand so they get out early buy it up and sell it online for twice what they paid for it. I've even seen cops do this. we limit our customers to 100 rounds per day per customer or 1 brick of whatever size we have it in, so its out there. its your fellow man that is screwing you over not the manufacturers or even the government on this one guys. and trust me im no fan of the government. its no doubt they want to take our guns, but honestly its the fault of people who don't even want to shoot it buying it up and trying to make an easy buck. like I said though, its out there, don't over pay on the net because you cant find it, that's whats driving this thing

Dt wrote:
August 11, 2014

I was at my academy one day and a 50ct box of federals was 2.29 a box and not even two weeks later they were 4.98 a box

dickn52 wrote:
August 11, 2014

Ok, making more, trying to meet demand...where is it? He never really says does he?

jim wrote:
August 11, 2014

Here's the problem. We have a bunch of unpatriotic idiots running out and buying all the .22 ammo and scalping it for 3 to 400[%] mark up. That's what the main problem is. Go to the gun trader sites and you will see it everywhere. Then you have the idiots that think they just have to horde as many rounds as they can, storing up 10's of thousands of .22 rounds. If there's a conflict like everyone fears is coming, you will not have the opportunity to use up that ammo, what you are doing is preventing others from being able to have a little security themselves. Since all this started, I have seen the most greed and lack of patriotism coming out of it.

BC wrote:
August 11, 2014

I am having a bit of difficulty with this article. How do you hord when you can't find it? All the on line dealers are out of stock. So where is CCI selling all this ammo?. Also, why would match ammo also be in short supply? This is priced well above whopat the recreational 22 shooter is going to pay, but it also is very difficult to ever find.

chuck wrote:
August 11, 2014

I live in casagrande Arizona and I cant find any there all ways sold out hopefully they will make more faster

Rob wrote:
August 11, 2014

Now is the time , for several of us. United States wide to broker to people that want to invest in some companies. And lets start up some new ammunition companies. We know the demand is there so lets make it happen and flood the market..

slamradio wrote:
August 11, 2014

most people want to read their news. video is a nice bonus, but it should not be the actual article. please provide a transcript or some highlights if you want this post to have any value... Thanks!

Roger Chatterton wrote:
August 11, 2014

Have a hard time putting the blame on just new shooters coming on board. I believe that there are a lot of people out there hoarding ammo. I look on a lot of blogs, etc., and people have .22's for sale....but for close to, or above the price we pay per round for some centerfire ammo. A lot of people just buy up the supplies and resell it to make money. I hate to even shoot any of the .22 ammo I have because I don't know when, or if I will be able to replace it. It makes it really tough when I am trying to introduce my grandkids to shooting and have limited ammo to do it.

jonny d wrote:
August 11, 2014

No crazy shortage here in the d.c. suburbs. It went away for a year or so. You can buy cases of 1000 rounds at dicks and many local stores are getting in enough for a 5 box limit per person over 18 per day. Good policy to keep people from using their kids tip hoard ammo. Been working here. Cases of 9mm, .36 per round .223/5.56, & finally 22/40/45/308 becoming more abundant. If your aren't seeing it, it's got to be right around the corner for you.

James wrote:
August 11, 2014

The bad thing about the people who are bypassing the limit with friends and family is that is mostly the people that buy them cheap and then sell either online or elsewhere for much higher prices. I admit I have used some family to buy ammo with myself, but that ammo stays in my small stockpile. BTW, I'm completely out of .22 Rimfire. I short all mine up plinking before this crap started and I refuse to pay scouted prices for it. That goes along with most of my .40 Cal as well. It's bad enough that all you have to do is join a fb ammo buying page and you can see the scouting at work. Most I have seen so far was a 525 count box that went for $300.00. It's a shame how some people like to take advantages of situations like this.

jim wrote:
August 11, 2014

We came back across Arkansas today on I-40 and there was big sign on the fence in front of Remington Ammunition that they were hiring so maybe there will be an increase of 22's.

agustin wrote:
August 11, 2014

I shoot in USA and in México, Is unreal, that is easier to find .22 lr ammo in mexican sporting hunting stores, than in USA gun stores, they have it at 60 to 70 dlls per 500 rounds , depend the quality of the ammo, But at least they allways have.

K.D. Wells wrote:
August 11, 2014

His story is somewhat believable. I think it's new shooters coupled with the hoarders/prepper groups. I heard a guy talking in the checkout line at bass pro that he had 25000 rounds of .22lr. I personally keep 1000+ for every caliber firearm I own but 25000? Really? This is where it's at. That particular day bass pro put out over 300000 rounds and even with the 2 box limit it sold out in an hour and 15.

Joe Pattinson wrote:
August 11, 2014

22 amo is all over the websites as we all know.stop buying it at the inflated prices and it will come sack in the stores

Dale wrote:
August 11, 2014

Same people waiting in lines every with there buddy's buying all they can. Then resales it at higher prices. See it all the time with limits in place.

terry p wrote:
August 11, 2014

i hope we can believe him!

Tex wrote:
August 11, 2014

I don't buy it. There are no longer 12 guys every morning in front of Academy Sports and other retailers before opening waiting to buy ammo and yet there's still no 22LR to speak of. Something is amiss.

Roger Perkins wrote:
August 11, 2014

For some reason I think people and plinkers in particular, are buying up and hoarding most of the .22 rimfire. Retailers should maybe put a limit on how many boxes one person can purchase and give others a chance to get some. Who needs 10,000 rounds of .22?

Augie Dawg wrote:
August 11, 2014

here in Fort worth you can buy top name box of 50 for 6.50 at Academy and yet you can pay almost that much for empty boxes off Ebay. Humidity and time will take a toll on stashes unless they seal a meal...LOL

Patrick wrote:
August 11, 2014

Bought 10K today. No problem.

DN B wrote:
August 11, 2014

Go to the Gun shows and you can fine some for 2 to 3 times higher .

Pete wrote:
August 11, 2014

Just reload.....Yes it's expensive at first but once you calculate it it's quite cheap.Just keep your old 22 shells......Oh wait you can't do that with rim fire!

Pennagrundsau wrote:
August 11, 2014

40 yrs. ago, there were shortages in meat, everybody filled their freezers. At the time in, no order, there were also shortages in sugar, canning jar lids, orange juice, gasoline, etc. I guess greed finally thought up a new one. . .

jody wallace wrote:
August 11, 2014

Keep up the good work . Making more amo means makin more jobs I think its awesome

Christopherhouston wrote:
August 11, 2014

Will I did not get to hunt this year and my kid did not get to go so thinks and I sold my 22 Lr so I don't need it

Robert McMaster wrote:
August 11, 2014

I really would like to think that the story regarding the .22 ammo is true,but I've seen a severe shortage for 2 years and stores like Wal-Mart are starting to stop handling cased ammo altogether. There is a huge black cloud over this whole situation.

Dennis Donat wrote:
August 11, 2014

This didn't help ! we still can't find any 22 ammo.

B. Simmons wrote:
August 11, 2014

I haven't seen any name brand .22 ammo for at least 2 years. This includes cci and federal. AND the ammo I can get is sub velocity and less than 40 grain bullets. What gives? They are expensive too boot!!

Josh wrote:
August 11, 2014

As a gun store owner myself. We can't even buy it. Even if I offer to buy 50k worth. With that, and 9/10 people coming into my store and asking for it... Makes for a bad mixture.

Zeus wrote:
August 11, 2014

.22LR is the modern day yeti! I only have about 8,000 rounds!!! But with three children that I want to teach to become shooters and PROFICIENT shooters, you know that count is low

David wrote:
August 11, 2014

Mark is right! I have gone to the closet four Walmart stores in my area. The same people, same time on the same days. They buy all the 22 ammo. Many are reselling online or at flea markets. First come forts serve. They get upset when the 'new guy' shows up. They know the store employes by name and know the shipping and receiving schedules of the stores they go to. They know what and how much is coming a week in advance and no which days NO 22 ammo will be in.

Mark wrote:
August 11, 2014

Straight from a Walmart workers mouth 'The same people show-up EVERY day at *:00 ** asking and waiting for the 22 ammo to be stocked on the shelf, we set a limit and they bring friends and family with them to bypass the limit' bottom line....the same people are hoarding all of the 22 ammo!!

william brown wrote:
August 11, 2014

Okay, so we know the stuff is being manufactured 24 hours a day. Question. Where is it going? Stores do not admit receiving any in quantity. Someone, somewhere is stockpiling.

John wrote:
August 11, 2014

I don't believe a word of this. Nobody is shooting .22's anymore because nobody can get it. PERIOD.

Michael wrote:
August 11, 2014

Mr. Brandt, you use words like 'ton' and 'round the clock', but there are no concrete numbers. How many rounds did CCI manufacture in 2012, 2013 and how many more do you understand will be produced in 2014? What were the percentage increases in production over previous years? Thank you

C. Ely wrote:
August 11, 2014

I would rather read an article than watch a video. Call me old-fashioned.

Shane wrote:
August 11, 2014

That would make sense if it was even getting to the stores, but here in West Virginia, they're not even getting it into the store except maybe 20 boxes at one time every three or four months. It's just simply not getting here. But when it does, it's gone in minutes.

Pat wrote:
August 11, 2014

I order all my .22 ammo online and have no problems getting. A little bit more due to shipping but I have a bunch!

Mark B wrote:
August 11, 2014

I have been having problems getting 22LR for more than a year and just last week it seems like the logjam broke. First Dicks had 100 rd. boxes, limit one each person, then they had 500 rd. bricks, limit one per person. It isn't unlimited but being able to get a brick and go plinking again is nice. Prices were $10 and $25 respectively, so it is no bargain, but it is available again.

Mike Huffer wrote:
August 11, 2014

Makes scense that demand is causing ammo shortages.I have found significant stores of ammo in less populate areas in the west.

Winn Olson wrote:
August 11, 2014

How about the imported .22 ammo? Is anything making it past Customs?

R Beckner FFL NRA member wrote:
August 11, 2014

I truly understand demand, however when Point A works around the Clock, Point B (distributors) should be able to get Product, to sell to point C (end users). I have six major sporting goods distributors I order from, all have major centerfire hunting calibers, NONE have .22 rimfire, few have .410. He still did not answer where between A and B it is going. Unless the Box stores are buying it ALL. But they don't seem to have any unless rationed here in Arkansas either .

Dan Kidder wrote:
August 11, 2014

Those who are saying ramp up production have no clue what it takes to make rim fire ammo. Most ammo makers buy primers from primer manufacturers, but rimfire ammo contains the primer material and it is highly toxic and volatile. A local ammo maker looked into making it but it would have cost him at least $6 million to even get started on small scale. The EPA and ATF and OSHA all get involved and there is no guarantee that the investment will be recouped if the demand doesn't stay high. It isn't just as simple as ramping up production when every machine you have is running around the clock. You would have to add many more expensive machines and then you would fix the demand problem, and leave yourself with no way to get a return on your investment. If you start supplying more ammo to meet the demand, demand will go down and you are left with a lot of debt to try to recover.

Dan wrote:
August 11, 2014

I read an earlier post about a man wanting to take his grand kids out and teach them how to shoot or just plink around but cannot find 22 ammo anywhere. So how many people grew up learning how to shoot with a 22? Take that away and you lose out on alot of new shooters learning how to shoot? Just a crazy thought?

Jon wrote:
August 11, 2014

The only real way to solve this 'crisis' is to raise prices. Once the prices go up, people will slow down on buying it and then there will be a surplus, which will allow for prices to drop and restabilize. This idea of blaming people for 'price gouging' is a clear misunderstanding of economics.

ricky dee wrote:
August 11, 2014

please make more I still cant find them

Vern Green wrote:
August 11, 2014

Seems like now might be a good time to open a factory making more rimfire. I believe the problem is demand, but where is the response, are the companies afraid to ramp up supply to meet demand or what?

David wrote:
August 11, 2014

Here in my area a local pawn shop knows when the delivery and stocking of the .22 happens and comes in and buys every last box. They then mark it up by $5 or so a box. Ridiculous!

lex wrote:
August 11, 2014

Everyone who is scared its gonna go away is hording it plain and simple I buy it when I come across it but I have seen ppl when I would go by walmart after work when I was in seconds waiting for it to hit thebshelf so they can grab their limit and seen em hitting it in groups ppl hoarding is costing all of us

mark wrote:
August 11, 2014

I purchased a .177 pellet rifle. Pellets travel 1400fps. And no problem finding ammo.

Albert Reed wrote:
August 11, 2014

I'm not from Missouri but,in this case SHOW ME !

William wrote:
August 11, 2014

The truth is; people are buying it up in bulk & then turning around & selling it at jacked up prices on Gunbroker & other sites. They are not leaving any for anyone else & until people stop hoarding it & refusing to pay jacked up prices this will continue..

Michael D Pugh wrote:
August 11, 2014

For over a year a have been trying to find ammo at a local WALMART to this day I've been unable to find one box of 22 gunfire. Store clerk's are notifying a select group when it will be put out. They then show up and clean it out. I've complained to Wal-Mart and they say ..first come ..first served. This is a bad policy on part of Wal-Mart. I suggested a waiting list...dead ears.

Wulfgang wrote:
August 11, 2014

Ok finee, people are buying it up..and you are making more...so why did it go from $15.00 for 550 rounds, to $10.00 for 50 rounds? Whats the reason for that if you are making so much money by all this demand? Greed? A chance to do what the Govt. does to us daily?

Jeff wrote:
August 11, 2014

A lot of the sporting goods stores in my area are also short on ammo, the reason is as soon as they get a delivery it goes on line to the highest bidder.

war pony wrote:
August 11, 2014

You can thank the Dooms Day Prepper folks for spreading the rumor that .22 will be worth more than gold in a WROL situation. Sheep everyone of em.

Terry Turner wrote:
August 11, 2014

Video won't play should put down the transcript. Yes people are hoarding the ammo I also think the people who work at Walmart are the one's buying it all up and selling it online at rediculous prices I've seen it happen in a store in Northern Virginia I said something to the manager and he said he would put a stop to it but no change yet

Eddy Capps wrote:
August 11, 2014

Its not that they r making more or they aren't hitting the stores they have them its just there way of raising the price if everyone would stop buying them u would c a hole different outlook on ammo but the American people don't c it this way they c it as got to get all I can get my hands on. When I was a small boy we went out every Sunday to shoot r 22 and u could buy a brick for ten dollar now if u can get your hands on a brickit coast u 80 dollars way to go america keep up the good work. As long as u pay it there is always going to be a shortage on ammo and the price is going to keep going up

Dave wrote:
August 11, 2014

I drive by the CCI plant in Lewiston, ID when I go fishing. At 5 am their parking lot is empty. Where's the 24/7

Lou Sansevero wrote:
August 11, 2014

The problem is two part (1) profiteering, ammunition sellers that regularly sell at gun shows are buying up huge quantities of .22 LR creating a shortage of supply and selling them at gun shows at greatly inflated prices and (2) people, when they see .22 LR for sale, buy it in large quantities at those inflated prices. The problem would be quickly resolved if people would simply stop buying it at inflated prices and stick the profiteers with huge investments in stock that isn't moving. Two or three years ago you could buy a 550 round brick for less than about $15 now these profiteers are getting $50 or more for 500 round bricks . . . stop buying!

E. Minor wrote:
August 11, 2014

I feel we have a bunch of hoarders out there in the public, they don't want to be caught with out 22 rimfire like they were on the 45's, 9mm and 40 cals. and also the 223 rounds I try t0 keep 5 boxes of ammo for each caliber I shoot.

cliff duncan wrote:
August 11, 2014

Cabela's & Academy! Big stores, Cab's in Fort Worth has tons today Longs, shorts and WMR.

Bill wrote:
August 11, 2014

I still believe the Government has something to do with the lack of Ammo. I trust them as far as I can throw them.

Pam Nave wrote:
August 11, 2014

I still don't believe it. I know in my own town that every time a shipment comes in the same people are there buying it up. Mostly dealers who resell it. I have not been able to buy any since this time last year. Could not even get any for Christmas last year.

Steve wrote:
August 11, 2014

I come across Remington 525 boxes at Dick's and Field and Stream all the time.... Dick's usually has 25-30 boxes. Field and Stream will have a ton. Last time I saw it was at Dick's at like 6pm on a Saturday....

Werner May wrote:
August 11, 2014

It hasn't been in short supply for months, we are now talking in YEARS!!! Less supply means higher prices bottom line. If they really started cranking it out the price would drop..period!

John Bernard wrote:
August 11, 2014

I find this difficult to believe completely. The price of 22 lr has more than doubled and availability has apparently shrunk. People are hoarding ammo. Hoarders are incredibly unfair to the rest of us as it appears that they rarely go shooting. I know one guy who has accumulated 17,000 rounds of 22lr and never goes shooting.

Roger wrote:
August 11, 2014

Sucks when we have to pay $60 or more for 500 rounds for our Wisconsin Hunter Education class, when we can get it. Every store, every day, empty shelves. Talk to store owners, they are not getting shipments. Supplies are being diverted and manufacturers, distributors, and government is lying about what's happening to the .22LR supply.

Jimmy Waits wrote:
August 11, 2014

There's a difference between producing it and making it available to the average shooter. They sell all of it to a few huge companies that hold it off the market to keep the price high. I run a small gun shop, that can't buy ammo by the truck load. I depend on wholesale distributors. They are the ones being shut out. I think this guy needs to answer a few more questions.

Roy wrote:
August 11, 2014

It is all the opportunists out there buying all of it when it comes in and then trying to resell for twice the amount.

chad wrote:
August 11, 2014

Gun shops buy it up as well as guy's that sell at gun shows and it ends up on places like gunbroker for 70 bucks a brick! End of story!

Erick S wrote:
August 11, 2014

The preppers are also hoarding it, many of them have contacts at places such as Wal Mart who hold the ammo for their friends only

Lowen Nunn wrote:
August 11, 2014

I love shooting 22 a lot, but all stores say they can' get ammo, it is not available from the mfg. so why?

Mike Smith wrote:
August 11, 2014

I can understand the demand is heavy and it seems like the supply is adequate. Then why has the price of .22 rimfire increased by 500[%]?

Randy wrote:
August 11, 2014

For the last year here in Oklahoma, Wal-Mart has been getting cases in every week and they have a 3 box limit. The same people are in line every time a case comes in about 4:00 am but the shells aren't brought out to the floor till 7:00 am. Three people get 3 bricks each and 1 person gets the last brick. These people are buying for local gun shops who in turn triple the price!

Randy wrote:
August 11, 2014

I don't believe it.

Eagle C Tovar Jr wrote:
August 11, 2014

There is also another major factor in the continuing shortage--hoarding. I have personally spoken to people who work in major sporting goods stores. They tell me that even though they are getting shipments of .22 ammunition, it is gone quickly--sometimes before it even gets put out for sale. The employees themselves take a huge dent out of it--then they salt some away for their buddies. By the time the ammunition gets to the shelves, the majority has already been purchased at discount by the employees. Then it disappears within minutes of getting to the floor. I shoot competitively and I have .22 ammunition backordered from the Civilian Marksmanship Program. I have been told that I will be lucky to see the ammunition within 2 years--and I have had it on order for 8 months already.

Kred wrote:
August 11, 2014

I'm on the who's buying it wagon. If there's tons more being manufactured then you would think Id know someone who's been able to find it. Most of the retailers I've talked to say they're only getting it in very limited quanities. So WHO is buying it all and just where are they finding it??

Steven R wrote:
August 11, 2014

I wonder which government agency is hoarding the .22 rim fire? You can bet there's a bunker somewhere on a government base just packed with them.

Drew DeMarco wrote:
August 11, 2014

He indicated his company is manufacturing rim fire around the clock. I believe that but where it goes and what's really creating the shortage? Don't care what he says, he can't speculate once it leaves his doors. JMO

MWorrell wrote:
August 11, 2014

Companies can't ramp up capacity with long terms commitments in order to accommodate a short term spike in demand. If they do, they'll go broke as soon as demand falls.

Doug Ayers wrote:
August 11, 2014

gospinout9@aol Horders can buy most but not all. Why can't supply houses or dealers get preference? Costs are crazy high. I love cci lr., 17 aguila, mach 2, 17 hmr, 22 mag. some of it is near impossible to afford or get.

Michael Dickemore wrote:
August 11, 2014

Thanks for the video update! What would be nice if there could be more updates, maybe monthly? I know demand has greatly gone up over the last couple of years. More people are using .22 cal rifles than ever before. Once again, thanks for the update.

John Tate wrote:
August 11, 2014

Hoarding was the rule during the '73-'74 oil embargo. I'm sure we see the same today. There was price gouging then. We definitely see that today. With time, 22LR availability and (higher?) price stability should return. In the interim - be patient and keep up your skills with dry fire.

james wrote:
August 11, 2014

Any other product with that kind of consumer demand would have done whateever it took to get that revenue.i think these store managers have figured a way to buy it off the dock and then sell for $90 a brick at gun shows.

Col. David Long wrote:
August 11, 2014

Though it seems frustrating to we ammo users when it is so hard to find the .22 product, it is great to know that demand is so great. It speaks well for the job NRA has done to educate on the issue of gun ownership and sport. Good interview.

William wrote:
August 11, 2014

You need to open more factory and hire unemployed American workers

Javier C wrote:
August 11, 2014

Considering that rimfire ammo is being manufactured 24/7, where is it all going? An increase in users doesn't account for the fact that it cannot be found except at great price. I hate to pay 'centerfire ammo prices' for rimfire ammo, but I am left with little choice because of continued scarcity. Each time I ask my local gunstore if they have any rimfire ammo, I get a negative reply every time. Are the hoarders snatching it up in bulk, storing it, then reselling it at overinflated prices? That seems the most likely explanation I can see. If I'm wrong, then what is happening?

Jeff Wayne wrote:
August 11, 2014

He may have a hand in producing the .22 rimfire ammo, but he is seriously out of touch with the real problem that's causing the shortage, hoarders and gougers. The same cretins that stand in line every morning at the sporting goods counter in Walmart, K-Mart etc. 30 minutes before it opens, then buy their limit of three boxes every day, and some even bring buddies so they can buy their limit for them. Then they take it, mark it up, most times double what they paid, and sell it for profit. Until this behavior is stopped there will always be a .22 rimfire ammo shortage.

Drew wrote:
August 11, 2014

That's great that the question could be posed and an answer offered by someone in the industry. But I'm not convinced. If the leading producer of rimfire is producing .22LR 'around the clock', why is it that we rarely see more than a few boxes arrive at a retailer?

chuck wrote:
August 11, 2014

You don't believe supply and demand. Most of you would snatched up 22 rim fire anytime you can. That is called demand.

Gary wrote:
August 11, 2014

I'm sorry but I don't believe a word he said. When there isn't even one 22LR that is on the shelf anywhere ever I call foul. It's not like I don't look for it. I make trips to the store regularly and can't find it. If it's coming off the manufacturing line then I hope someone who is hoarding it all gets burnt on the price one day.

Rich Suggs wrote:
August 11, 2014

I was told by more than one gun store owner that the US government and military are training with .22lr for the cost savings, but I think they are buying all ammo in order to have a defacto gun control policy.

Larry wrote:
August 11, 2014

I think factories are not producing the Same amount nor are they shipping the quantities they say. Retailers are in fact receiving much less if any at all. Also people are exploiting the shortage buying all they can and reselling at ludicrous prices, survivalists buying all as well thinking they can save the world with it. The video to me I a lie

rick parker wrote:
August 11, 2014

i heard the same deal that they are making the ammo 40 hours a week . but where is it all going ? not on the store shelves like what we are told . i haven't seen a half empty box of .22 being sold any place and i just got back from a trip across america and i hit as many places i could ! I REFUSE TO PURCHASE AMMO MADE IN OTHER COUNTRY'S

Groove wrote:
August 11, 2014

Part of the issue is hoarding buyers-seen them with my own eyes+ stories from friends who own or work at ammo outlets. Part of it is the amount of money makers get for selling large caliber rounds versus .22 rounds. With this, shotgun rounds other than trap Rd and ultra expensive specialty Rds are also either non-existent or expensive. The Obamanator is the rest of the problem.

Al wrote:
August 11, 2014

I have a difficult time understanding how in 2 years time the supply was totally over come by demand. The 'scalper' at the gun show seems to be the only guy who has 22's. If so much production is occurring, where's it going, the shelves are always bare.

Paul Riel wrote:
August 11, 2014

I think it's true they are making a lot of rimfire ammunition - the white wash is they are not making the 22 long rifle ammunition. just more of all the others that were more costly to begin with.

Scott wrote:
August 11, 2014

They aren't doing enough to meet the demand. Getting tired of hearing that they are increasing their production, blah blah blah. Hearing the same old sad story isn't helping the problem.

David wrote:
August 11, 2014

Instead of the generic... 'we're making it as fast as we can' line how about some facts & figures on just how much they are making each month and which companies are buying it. Seems odd that Academy Sports stores are getting .22LR at all their stores on a fairly regular basis, but Walmart stores are bone dry. What's up with that? And if there is such a high demand for .22LR, then why hasn't production be significantly ramped up... as this shortage has been going on for most of the 6 years of the Obama presidency. Just how long does it take to add production?

Sambal Badjak wrote:
August 11, 2014

Soooo - they've increased manufacturing but it is just hoarding snapping it all up? Not quite sure I completely buy that. It is quite convenient that the price is up 4-500[%] too. Someone is making good money off of it.

vincent dufaux wrote:
August 11, 2014

I have been waiting for .22 ammo for over a year and a half so what else is new.

Anthony wrote:
August 11, 2014

What isn't diverted by shady distributors and makes it to the shelf is bought by ammo scalpers. It only shows up on gunbroker.com and at flea markets for ridiculous prices. Stop paying the price and these bottom feeders will stop scalping .22 lr.

Fred B. wrote:
August 11, 2014

I believe they ARE making .22 cal ammo. Question is, every sporting goods , hunting or ammo store I've gone to in New England keeps saying that they are unable to get any, if it's being made, then where is it all going.

Chris Tjapkes wrote:
August 11, 2014

Hard to believe when I have not seen a single box of .22s in more than a year!

Rick wrote:
August 11, 2014

I don't believe him... New shooter demand? Come on.. Something is fishy. No one in Michigan has it, and when it does show up where ever, its gone in hours. The answer is hoarding and not enough production. Flood the market with it and the hoarding will stop.

Larry wrote:
August 11, 2014

I know its bad. I ordered 100 rounds of 22 LR in Dec. I get an e mail every month that it has been backordered again. Cabellas must have alot bigger orders.

Not Another Liar wrote:
August 11, 2014

Do they really expect us to believe that...

Larry wrote:
August 11, 2014

We still have the few people who consistently buy what little ammo trickles in before anyone else can and resell at twice the price at gun shows, etc. Normal people just can't get to it. All about the money, greed.

Bobby Wilson wrote:
August 11, 2014

I've heard this before, I'm not really sure if it's one thing or many things. I can't believe this whole heartily as everyone has a just one box approach, and here in Long Island NY one guy was selling Stingers for 12.99 for a box, and 18.99 for a box of 100 CCI mini mags,that's just robbery.

Robert runyan wrote:
August 11, 2014

Still seems that not a lot gets to the market. It seems to vanish. Out here in the west we use it to controll varmits alot but have a hard time reuping our stocks without a 10 dollar bil

Kirby Neubert wrote:
August 11, 2014

There has been such a large demand for .22 rimfire ammo for so long now that there has been more than enough time for manufacturers to greatly expand their operations to meet that demand. Such a high demand would also make it lucrative for them to do so. Had the U. S. been this slow at meeting the demand for ammunition during WWII, we would all be speaking German right now.

sean wrote:
August 11, 2014

Its been on the consumers mind for months? How about years And its not the issue of finding it, its the price thats killing it. I see .22's all the time. Im not paying $60 or more for a brick of it!

armed grandpappy wrote:
August 11, 2014

Dude, comb your hair!

Kurt Hueneke wrote:
August 11, 2014

I remember buying them about a penny a round. Last time I bought a brick of Win. Wildcats, $12.49. I got 5k rounds & am getting real stingy shooting it.

Tommy wrote:
August 11, 2014

Every time Walmart gets any ammo around here people go buy it up and resale it for a higher price ! Not letting others buy ammo for you own personal gain is wrong I have three kids that love to shoot , but because of these bone heads its hard to find . If you are doing this be considerate of others !

RC wrote:
August 11, 2014

That is very hard for me to belive , but there are plenty of guns.

Steven wrote:
August 11, 2014

If it is because the demand is so high then why doesn't ANYONE I know or ANYONE they know have any at all or have seen any since mid 2013?

Virgil kidd wrote:
August 11, 2014

Open another factory. Make more jobs.

Frank s wrote:
August 11, 2014

I only haf believe him.

Floyd Spivey wrote:
August 11, 2014

Baloney!!

dan maliuf wrote:
August 11, 2014

That wasn't an answer, that was a good politicians answer, it's here we are making it Sorry.

Rhett smith wrote:
August 11, 2014

Thank you.

Dave wrote:
August 11, 2014

Wally world had Bricks of the stuff always. For the last 9 months nothing. I dont believe him.

Lance wrote:
August 11, 2014

When will content creators start being wise enough to include transcripts of the videos they post...many people don't watch them so the info never reaches them.

Jeff Dotson wrote:
August 11, 2014

If there is such a demand and you can't produce enough, then why not open up shop in other areas? There are plenty of people that need work in Michigan and some empty buildings to start production. Come to Michigan and open another production shop. It only makes sense to expand and produce to fill the demand. You will also make more money due to more people buying more. Thank You.

Marsha wrote:
August 11, 2014

That's what I thought.

Frank wrote:
August 11, 2014

A lot of young shooters getting discouraged and they are the future of shooting.

Anthony wrote:
August 11, 2014

Build more factorys. create more jobs....

Jack britton wrote:
August 11, 2014

I use to buy .22 ammo when ever I wanted To go shooting. Now I buy it every time I go to a store that sells it in case I want to go shooting

Paul. A Cline. Jr wrote:
August 11, 2014

I live in Brownwood TX . Our WalMart gets a order of Ammo once a week. And if your not in the loop you can't. Get any 22lr Ammo I have three 22 Riffles and know Ammo please help me .

Jason C Arave wrote:
August 11, 2014

Sounds like the demand is high becuase they're keeping supply low. Gas companies do the same thing to inflate demand which drives the market way up.

Travis Smuth wrote:
August 11, 2014

I haven't seen any in Brookhaven, Ms in probably 2 years.

Mike wrote:
August 11, 2014

This answer is meaningless. There is no information, just vague and ambiguous statements. What new interests? How is it they can get the ammo and the every day person cannot? How many rounds per year different for each year?

Steve Graw wrote:
August 11, 2014

now if we can just have some correlating proof of 22 rimfire firearms sales... in most industries when demand outstrips production, production swiftly ramps up to capitalize on demand. This problem has been ongoing for more than a few years; the explanation that 'we can't keep up with demand' just doesn't make any sense.

Nick Pagliuca wrote:
August 11, 2014

Add more production.

James Weidner wrote:
August 11, 2014

Won't load worthless. Still no answers

Brian wrote:
August 11, 2014

Still doesn't answer why it's so scarce. Why the demand is so high?

Joe wrote:
August 11, 2014

Hold back production drives the price up. good plan

jan mills wrote:
August 11, 2014

I really find this hard to believe. If you can find it in stock, all stores in our area and surrounding areas have a limit of 100 round limit per person a day and the price is to high. Alot of stores cant even get any. Im thinking its a government thing or a scam to run up prices. A few years back the same thing happened with 380 ammo. And is he the only producer in the whole USA? Just seems wrong somehow

pia wrote:
August 11, 2014

If it is true. Just demand for 22s then why not hire more people. We still can't find them.

david ashley wrote:
August 11, 2014

Still there is no way that much ammo can disapear. Is it all going down south. I've talked to people in Texas who say it's on the shelf well here in upstate NY it is still no where to be found.

don wrote:
August 11, 2014

Bologna I don't believe him

Dennis Davis wrote:
August 11, 2014

Why the cost and also 22 mag

Bryan wrote:
August 11, 2014

Then they need to add on some assembly lines, because they aren't available anywhere!

Ken wrote:
August 11, 2014

It's the horders!!!! Nothing else either they(horders) really believe the zombies are coming, or the government will take their guns/ammo which neither is or will happen

Ron Brossman wrote:
August 11, 2014

There is a limit on how much we can purchase, than how come you can't catch up with demand?

Shawn Chopper wrote:
August 11, 2014

Pawn shop, gun show re-salers, guys trying to make a buck, and shooters trying to stock up are making the ammo disappear. As long as everyone keeps buying everything they see no matter the price, the market demand will keep the prices high and supplies low/ non-existant. The President's actions toward guns have led to gun owners wanting to hoard ammo and guns. If everyone shows some restraint ammo will show back up.

Nathan burnette wrote:
August 11, 2014

Bull crap if that is true it's being shipped out of the country.

christopher mcgill wrote:
August 11, 2014

How much do you make in 22 rimfire and how much of that gets released to the public.

John slape wrote:
August 11, 2014

I suggest that you gear up and make more!

Rudy Alorda wrote:
August 11, 2014

Average Joe still cant find any what do we do, do without?

Gloria Baggett wrote:
August 11, 2014

We have a gun store and we can't get 22 ammunition! If so much is being made why can't we find any to buy!!

Ed wrote:
August 11, 2014

I think the profit margine on larger caliburs is so much higher that they are boosting their bottom line by making more of them and forgetting about the 22s.

Gary Price wrote:
August 11, 2014

Why has it taken so long to ramp up production if demand is really so high?

Dan wrote:
August 11, 2014

I'll take an article to read instead of having to watch a video.

Robert Snow wrote:
August 11, 2014

There can't be that many of new shooters out there to continue the unavailability of rimfire ammo.

Dave wrote:
August 11, 2014

Are they producing at maximum capacity? Because from a business point if view their profit margin is most likely higher in other calibers. So it would make more sense from my point of view to focus more on the production of those other calibers.

R.G. Murphy wrote:
August 11, 2014

If they are making so much more, where the heck is it going. Its not hitting sales floors in my area.

travis tschakert wrote:
August 11, 2014

Forget 22 where is all the 22-250????

Bob wrote:
August 11, 2014

Yes, demand coupled with some hoarding. The pipeline is dryed up and won't fill up until people start walking by and and let it build back up instead of buying everything they see. Consumers are part of the problem. Good ole American greed.

R. Abercrombie wrote:
August 11, 2014

I just don't buy that the market is that much bigger. They may be making it but it is not making it out to the retailers. I have not seen .22 rounds for over a year at the places I buy ammo.

Ron wrote:
August 11, 2014

Ammo is available at much higher prices I can see it but used to pay three dollars for what you now pay $12 for month problem getting 22 shells now if you want to spend the money we're used to beat up penny or two pennies around most times about $.10 around

Robert Saleda wrote:
August 11, 2014

Hope the pick up on oroduction .22 was my first gun and still my favorite use it mostly for rabbits or plinking thanks for killing the rumors

Robert Saleda wrote:
August 11, 2014

Hope the pick up on oroduction .22 was my first gun and still my favorite use it mostly for rabbits or plinking thanks for killing the rumors

Nigel Crothers wrote:
August 11, 2014

Great for the industry / Manufacturers, not so hot for us shooters !!!

David M. White wrote:
August 11, 2014

I live in Spokane, WA and having talked to a CCI rep from Lewiston, ID, he stated that they produce 22lr 24/7. perhaps if people wouldn't stockpile the stuff, there would be enough for allof us. I know one guy who has 35,000 rounds of 22lr. Why?

Steven J. Blatnik wrote:
August 11, 2014

Around here in Tn,people go to walmart early,buy what they can then resale to those for a higher price,at least 10 to 11cents a round,so i just bought an air gun for plinking and practice,it works great on small varmits also,thanks for the info,from Federal,most of the ammo i shoot is federal

Ed Wise wrote:
August 11, 2014

Just build a new plant. Make more 22 rimfire. If the market is their go get it

Frank wrote:
August 11, 2014

If it were all bought up by someone with that much money and they wanted to keep it hush hush... Do you really think they would tell you? I'm not crazy or a conspiracy theriost just saying...

Mike wrote:
August 11, 2014

I wonder who his top 10 customers are?

Robert wrote:
August 11, 2014

I think everybody is buying up as much as they can find as soon as it hits the shelf.

Bill Davis wrote:
August 11, 2014

But still,to who and where is it going???

George Smith wrote:
August 11, 2014

Nice short interview, but, the big question remains. What is the projected date when demand can be met and prices fall back in line?

Maureen Gyory wrote:
August 11, 2014

Good to know. Thanks.

Gene McCauley wrote:
August 11, 2014

I'll accept that reason. Now a follow-up question. If demand is the reason there's not much ammo and you are a business that relies on that demand in order to make money, why not double or triple production? If I have one lemonade stand and people are lined up around the corner waiting to buy lemonade, I'm going to open another stand on the other side of the block. And when/if they ever catch up to the current demand, will the price of .22 rimfire go down?

Jake wrote:
August 11, 2014

Same thing Steve Hornady said. Quit buying from scalpers and eventually they'll stop hanging out at every store at 7:00 am buying all the ammo. They'll stop paying Walmart employees to tip them off.

James. Richardson wrote:
August 11, 2014

I don't believe him. There should be plenty so 22 rim fire available. Some one has their hand in the pot providing more money.

Jim wrote:
August 11, 2014

I wonder... Noted and agreed that the sport/interest isn't waning, but would offer a alternate view that while there may be hoarding of ammunition, the prospect of greater profits from the sale of ammunitiion is more likely the cause. Anyone else remember the debacle regarding gas prices and supply in the late seventies?

concerned shooter wrote:
August 11, 2014

Is this just another way of raising the price of ammunition? Just like the the price is gasoline.

Lee Fountain wrote:
August 11, 2014

it is awfully easy to say that they are producing 24 hours a day from both factories. It is a lot harder to prove it. How many rounds did they make in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and to date in 2014. Let's compare prove it. Show us it's not an artificial planed reduction in supply to increase their prices.

John wrote:
August 11, 2014

Hoarders. Take a look on gun broker and ask yourself who in their right mind would pay 100.00 for a brick of 22lr. Stop paying the high price and the market will correct itself. FYI the world isn't ending.

Lawrence Rexroat wrote:
August 11, 2014

How come all of sudden seams to have a problem so much of a demand . I am 69 year old and the demand never seemed to be a problem be for you could go to about any store and find 22 amo?

Brent wrote:
August 11, 2014

I so appreciate you helping clearly answer that question. There is no doubt that with modern tactical firearms being manufactured in .22 rimfire that demand is the number one factor in supply.

Your NameBill Huskey wrote:
August 11, 2014

That is the logical answer that I have believed all along. There is a lot of hoarding going on, and I can't really find fault with that. I bought a Savage B-mag in .17 wsm last week and haven't found any ammo yet. Barney Fife is one up on me.

Michael wrote:
August 11, 2014

Where's the .380 ammo?

Nick wrote:
August 11, 2014

There is that many more people that just got in the sport were it's just all of a suddend that we can't get it anymore there is somthing elts to the story

Harper Ottaway wrote:
August 11, 2014

It is all the hoarders and gougers!!!!

TOM SCHULTE wrote:
August 11, 2014

When you find it, buy what you can. About 3 weeks ago bought a bucket of .22 Rimfire. Was only allowed one.

John holt wrote:
August 11, 2014

Why do people think they have to buy so much. I bought my son a new 22 rifle last year for Christmas and I haven't been able to buy shells because people buy everything in stock. I'm ready to sell his rifle.

jim wrote:
August 11, 2014

I don't believe this. I witness daily that people are not buying .22 rifles due to lack of ammunition. They won't buy a gun that they can't get ammo for

dbp wrote:
August 11, 2014

Hmmmm.... Not convinced. ... well lets hope all the rimfire monger horders get so full they cant buy anymore and I hope the market floods with 22lr and all the eh holes that horded it up. Feel dumb. And I hope also they are in debt from it... hoping to sell to others at a jacked up price during a shortage (also causing the shortage) i hope the stores get inventory back and the ****s with the stockpiled ammo is stuck with it and hope it goes bad on them.

Bill Lange wrote:
August 11, 2014

Hope this guy is honest, hard to believe anyone these days.

Chad Kuk wrote:
August 11, 2014

They make .22 ammo in Anoka, MN? Then why is it so hard to find it around here (Minnesota)? Especially if most places that sell it put purchase limits on it. Not to mention, they tell me that they have not been re supplied for weeks. In some cases they have not seen it in months. Quit jerking us around!

Ian wrote:
August 11, 2014

That's not an answer... 'New shooters....new weapons..' 'Trying to keep up with demand' ? .22LR is one of the most popular cartridges in the world has been for decades. There's more to this I think.

Joe young wrote:
August 11, 2014

How many rounds were produced last year? How many will be produced in future years. Who were the 10 biggest purchasers last year?

Ben wrote:
August 11, 2014

Wher are the numbers . All he sead was they are runing 24-7

Mike wrote:
August 11, 2014

What about gun powder

Rick wrote:
August 11, 2014

I'm thinking....a new start up company making 22 shells. I could make a butt load of money.

Jon Macaulay wrote:
August 11, 2014

How long til rim fire ammo goes lead-free?

Phillip Snow wrote:
August 11, 2014

I don't buy this excuse for a minute. His attempt at an explanation doesn't hold a drop of water. If they are putting out that much more ammunition then even with the new shooters and more .22 firearms there should not be the shortage nor exorbitant high prices! I am 52 years old and never have seen such a shortage. Looks like no hunting for us here this year. That is how bad it is. Sounds like a scheme to stop shooting ban hunting is working great. It is here in Tennessee anyway.

Adrian Wevers wrote:
August 11, 2014

Thanks for the update, myself and a lot of other shooters I've spoken to are hesitant to shoot the ammo we have, it's just been painful to come by in many areas.

Al wrote:
August 11, 2014

So they were caught with their pants down all of a sudden overnight the manufactures made tons of new 22 rifles and guns and their became millions of overnight shooters of 22's it's a hard one to believe

Sean Fitze wrote:
August 11, 2014

They say the same thing. Yet you still can't find it. Stores can't get it.

Randy wrote:
August 11, 2014

Hoaders have tons of it.

Matt Jackson wrote:
August 11, 2014

The simple fact is there are more 22 riffles in America than any other fire arm. Every family does or should own a 22. It is the perfect hunting tool for small game and simply put is affordable. With the gun grabbers actions as of late Americans simply started hording ammo.

Bud Mifsud wrote:
August 11, 2014

Your statment is hard to belive because it is not just 22 amo. that ia hard to get all rim fire center fire or gun power is almost imposipal to buy. If you know of a place where i can buy any of the idems let me know.

Kim Maninger wrote:
August 11, 2014

Sure would like to be able to buy bricks again,it's just not there to buy.

Jerry Tignor wrote:
August 11, 2014

The 22lr is extremely difficult to find in Tennessee. Please ship some my way !

John Van Why wrote:
August 11, 2014

It would appear that the rim fire ammo manufacturers are missing a huge profit opportunity unless they are controlling the availability for additional profits themselves. It does make one wonder ?

Frank Landreth wrote:
August 11, 2014

Any truth to the rumors about the powder formula changing so that the shelf life is only about a year?

Dennis spinner jr wrote:
August 11, 2014

Its been months since I could buy 22 shells can't seem to find them so let me buy them from the company it's self . Don't need boxes and boxes of them just enough to take the kids out to shoot the new rifle I bought three years ago now wich I haven't been able to use because I can't get ammo. Thanks

Anthony Tobar wrote:
August 11, 2014

Horrible sound. Time to open another factory. Demand will only go up.

Patrick wrote:
August 11, 2014

If they are working around the clock to keep up with demand why are they not keeping up with demand? Something isnt right

Beth Richard wrote:
August 11, 2014

Why is the price so high? It cost roughly the same to make it prior to high demand. Prices have doubled.

Carl Benson wrote:
August 11, 2014

Who is the largest consumer buying rim fired ammo. Retail stores,or government agencies?

Cal wrote:
August 11, 2014

This simply does not ring true. When you talk to the big retailers ... from Walmart & Outdoor World, to the specialist shooting retailers like Champion's Choice and many others, they all say their shipments which used to be pallet loads are down to a few cases. If retailers are not getting the ammo the whole 'more shooters' story is bogus.

Terry wrote:
August 11, 2014

Still not enough can't find it anywhere !!

Bryan D Sharp Sr wrote:
August 11, 2014

Thanks but can you please send me some free sample ammo? Have a nice day!

David Brooks wrote:
August 11, 2014

Ok, so they're making it, why doesn't it show up at Walmart?