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Admiring Weatherby Shotguns

After nearly 40 years in the industry, Weatherby shotguns have changed with the times, and these days are no different.

From the American Rifleman Archives

After I put the new PA-08 shotgun together, I called Weatherby’s PR man, Aaron Smith. “Aaron, I’m going to ask you a question and you have to tell me the truth,” I said. “Did you pick out the PA-08 you sent me or just send one from the warehouse?”

“I’ve never seen it before. Why?” he asked apprehensively.

“Because it has the most beautiful wood I’ve seen on a $400 shotgun.”

The PA-08 is Weatherby’s new pump-action. Sourced from a Turkish vendor, it’s made to sell at a low price point—in this case $389. But even inexpen- sive Turkish guns usually have well-finished, well- figured wood, and this particular one was spectacular.

In that way, this new gun remains true to Weath- erby’s shotgun heritage, which began nearly 40 years ago. Weatherby shotguns were made to be admired, just like Weatherby rifles. The PA-08 is as handsome as a budget pump-action can possibly be, and although most have plainer wood than my sample gun, they are uniformly well-finished and good-looking.

Weatherby has always sourced its shotguns from overseas vendors, beginning with the high-grade, Italian-made Regency over-under in 1970. Today, the line has broadened and evolved to comprise every- thing from the $389 pump and a surprisingly good, inexpensive $449 semi-automatic on up to double guns and over-unders selling for nearly $4,000.

Weatherby Shotgun History
Sixty-three years ago insurance salesman Roy Weatherby began tinkering with custom rifles and high- velocity cartridges in his southern California garage. Weatherby had the right idea for the time and place. As America raced into a bright and prosperous future, the Mark V, a super-high-velocity rifle with radical, eye- catching lines, reflected the spirit of the age. Weatherby was an innovator and also a shrewd marketer. He took full advantage of his location near Hollywood: He made sure movie stars shot his rifles, and Weatherby himself appeared on national television. A studio once sent Burt Lancaster with a photographer to Weatherby’s sporting goods store to take a picture of him with Roy and a rifle in order to promote the actor as a hunter. The Weatherby brand stood for glamour and post-war prosperity.

Weatherby manufacturing took place in Southgate, Calif., until rising costs forced it overseas. By the 1960s, the German firm of J.P. Sauer was building Mark V rifles. When Weatherby introduced a shotgun in 1969-70, he worked with Angelo Zoli of Brescia, Italy. (Angelo Zoli folded in 1987, and should not be confused with Anto- nio Zoli, which is still in business today).

The result of the collaboration was the Regency over-under, which sold for $500 at a time when a Belgian Browning Superposed cost $440. For that price, customers received a beautiful gun. Like all Weatherbys, it was stocked in Claro walnut with a gloss finish. It had the distinctive rosewood grip cap with a white line spacer and a white diamond on the bottom. The false sideplates were covered with ornate engraving. The action locked by means of a Greener crossbolt, a very strong, low-profile design. The field version came with Skeet or field chokes in 12 and 20 gauge, and there was a trap gun as well.

European inflation drove the price of a Regency to $1,000 by 1977, paving the way for a move to Japanese production for the entire shotgun line. Weatherby was already working with the Japanese on the Mark XXII semi-automatic rimfire, and he partnered with KTG and Nikko/ Kodensha on the new Patrician pump and Centurion semi-auto- matic. Both were introduced in 1972 and were easily identifiable by their distinctive fore-ends, which hid all but the end of the magazine cap. Weatherby also contracted with Nikko/Kodensha, makers of the Winchester 101, to make the Olympian over-under, a grade below the Regency.

Both Nikko/Kodensha and KTG filed for bankruptcy in 1980. A reorganized KTG continued to make Weatherby repeating shot- guns. The Patrician and Centurion were discontinued in 1982 in favor of the Model 82 semi-automatic, a new design that shot both stan- dard and magnum loads, and the 92 pump, which shared the semi- humpback profile of the new semi- automatic.

Meanwhile, Weatherby found a new vendor for over-under guns: SKB. Gunsmith Shigyo Sakaba was the original “SKB,” founding a small shop northeast of Tokyo in 1855. The SKB guns were excel- lent shooters and a good value, with a crossbolt action inspired by the German Merkel. SKB made Weatherby shotguns for more than 25 years, and they have a well-deserved reputation as good, reliable guns. My early ’80s vintage Orion served as my main pheasant gun for several seasons and, while the trademark Claro walnut stock and forearm were a little bulky, it did a fine job for me. The SKBs came in Athena (with sideplates) and Orion versions, each in multiple grades, in four gauges and many different con- figurations. Through the years, the SKB/Weatherbys evolved to suit changing tastes, and the last of the Japanese-made over-unders were very nice indeed, with slim lines, Prince of Wales grips and satin- finished wood.

Weatherby made a return to the semi-automatic market in 1999 with the SAS shotgun made by Valtro in Italy. I had one that worked well, and with a slug barrel it was deadly accurate. The gun, however, was never widely popular, and it was discontinued in 2007.

Just as European price increases sent Weatherby to Japan in the ’70s, rising costs in Japan recently forced the company to switch vendors again. Weatherby went back to Italy for break-action guns, and to Turkey for semi-automatics and pumps. Here’s where the Weath- erby shotgun line stands today:

The Weatherby Lineup

Weatherby still offers two models of over-unders: the Orion and the Athena. Both are the same gun mechanically, but the Athena has better wood and sideplates allowing for more decoration. In recognition of the switch from SKB to Italian maker Fausti Stefano, the appellation “d’Italia” has been added to both names. These are completely different guns than the previous SKB-made versions. The new over-unders feature an action Weatherby calls the “four- lock system.” As with many Italian over-unders the barrels rotate on trunnions and the guns lock up via a Browning/FN-style underbolt that engages a lug beneath the bottom barrel. For added strength, the Weatherby guns have two more “locks” in the form of recoil shoul- ders machined on the inside of the receiver that fit into matching recesses cut into the sides of the monobloc. The action should stand up to a lot of pounding.

I shot the Grade II and found it to be both good-looking and easy to hit with. The medium-dark Claro walnut has a fairly straight grain with sharply cut checker- ing, a glossy finish and a rounded Prince of Wales grip. The acanthus scroll and gamebird engravings on the silver receiver look machine- cut and can politely be called “robust.” Although the engraving looks crude in extreme close-up, it shows up well at arm’s length, the distance at which the finer roll engraving on many guns disap- pears from view. The Grade I has the same pattern on a blued receiver. The Grade III does as well, but with gold-inlaid birds.

The barrels are threaded for Weatherby’s “Integral Multi- Chokes” (IMC), which are compat- ible with the standard Invector tubes of the old SKB Weatherbys. The automatic safety has the Beretta-style barrel selector on top. The inertia-set triggers have pleasingly light pulls.

My sample Grade II weighed just under 7 lbs., 8 ozs. and felt a bit heavier in the barrels than I like for an upland gun. That extra weight did prove to help on the skeet field. Starting at $1,699, the Orion d’Italia line offers good hunting guns at a price that’s competitive with comparable over-unders. The Athenas start at $2,599.

When it comes to side-by-sides, the Athena d’Italia from Fausti has been in the Weatherby line since 2004. It is a classic two-trigger, straight-grip gun that comes in three models; the Athena d’Italia, the Athena d’Italia PG (the same gun with a pistol grip, single trig- ger and wider forearm) and a highly decorated, single-trigger Athena d’Italia Deluxe. There’s also an Orion d’Italia—essentially the same gun as the Athena PG but with plainer wood, no sideplates and a lower price tag of $2,199.

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11 Responses to Admiring Weatherby Shotguns

Mike Nissly wrote:
February 09, 2014

Except for way back when Roy started making guns and current production weatherby rifles that have always outsourced the guns as well as browning and other companies as well. Nothing more American as Winchester and hell I heard there gonna produce rifles in turkey ! Sucks but gun manufactures have been doing it for a long time and not gonna change anytime soon

J-P wrote:
January 18, 2014

Any info on the earlier SxS's? I know they aren't as popular, but some history on them might be interesting to learn. Thanks in advance.

David wrote:
November 29, 2012

Picked up a PA-08 today. Beautiful rich walnut accents.

B. DeKrey wrote:
November 07, 2012

I'm looking for the front stock for a Patrician. Mine is cracked and slides too much. Sometimes the gun doesn't fire because the action doesn't bring the shell close enough for the firing pin to contact the primer hard.

Lane Matthews wrote:
September 02, 2012

I have also just purchased the new weatherby pump in 12 Gauge. I bought it in for the name and price and I agree the wood is beautiful and it performs great, however I did not realize until I bought it that it was manufactured in turkey and that is disappointing. I would rather buy American.

Terry wrote:
August 09, 2012

I have a 20 gauge Weathery Model Rooo152 over and under shotgun with engraving on the magizine and stock. I would like someones advice on how much this might be worth. It is in excellent condition.

MATT EHRENBERG wrote:
August 07, 2012

MY NEIGHBOR DELT FOR A WEATHERBY PATRICAN TRAP GRADE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO OFF A INDIVIDIAL AND THE GUN COME FROM A ESTATE IT IS IN EXCELLENT COND THIS ONE HERE WAS ONLY MADE FROM 1973 TILL 1975 IT IS FULL CHOKE BUILT IN BARREL 12GA WITH VENT RIB BARREL AND MONTE CARLO STOCK. I HAVE A CHANCE TO BUY IT FOR $350.00 THIS ONE HERE WAS MADE IN JAPAN DURING THE 1970'S NOW THE SAME GU PA 08 IS NOW $500 FOR THE SAME GUN I HAVE JUST A NEWER VERSION OF IT.

Ron Woods wrote:
August 07, 2012

I got an 82 years ago myself. After each hunt, upon disassembly I found (like so many new autos) burs and chatter marks in the action. The slide rails also showed considerable machining marks. I stoned and polished out the action and did so again after other hunts, until there were no signs of burring or chatter marks on any of the action showing up. The gun works flawlessly. They just don’t polish out actions like the Swedish did on Mauser 96’s.

Bill fletcher wrote:
June 25, 2012

I too thought that if it said weatherby you could count on it. I was wrong! I have an 82 automatic shotgun which i recived brand new in Aug 1984. I am the only owner,still have the gun and it is in excellent condition. Except it is very inreliable and willnot consistently fire after reloading. I have taken it to three professional gunsmiths. One gave it back and said it was fixed. It was not have. The other two believed the bodt was poorly degsined and was causing the problem. I duck hunt and will not take it with me. Waste of time and money.

neil foremn wrote:
May 21, 2012

how do i find a bolt locking lug for a weatherby centurion 12 ga semi auto

william pitts wrote:
October 19, 2011

My SA08 was not expensive so I wondered if I had a good gun but I knew if it said Weatherby on it don't worry. I was right it is an excellent gun, now I want a 20 ga.